Mainstream music has been complete trash since 1988. If you listen anything the average person knows about from past that year then you're doing yourself and the world a disservice.
It is okay to only like older music but music made after 1988 in the mainstream can still be good. Dont get me wrong, a lot of it is bad, but that was true of all eras we just have survivorship bias
Sturgeon's Law applies: 90% of everything is shit. It's possible that only 85% of post-punk and New Wave was shit, though, which accounts for the different impression.
I "got into music" by constantly streaming this college radio turned public radio out of Minneapolis while I'm working. It's not perfect, but the hosts really like music and generally keep up on the cutting edge while avoiding top 40s. After a while you'll atleast be able to talk to young folk about music that they like.
I've wasted the past year getting into music, so if you like, I can recommend you at least a little bit of music in the bounds of:
hardcore punk and a few of its subgenres, most styles of emo, neofolk, hyperpop, post-punk, and post-rock; though metal is my favorite, and I could give you recommendations for most sounds in black metal, death metal, doom metal, power metal, thrash, and traditional heavy metal. I haven't gotten quite as deep into these styles, but I could also recommend you the basics for a handful of other styles if you want them, mainly slowcore, shoegaze, no wave, noise and noise rock, and kosmiche musik
What kind of stuff do you already like? Most of my arcane knowledge is in punk, goth, new wave, industrial, weird arty stuff and things along those lines.
Working on that. I'm not a very musically inclined person. Punk is fun I guess? Idk what new wave or industrial music is like but that sounds interesting.
Ohhh, I'm starting on the ground floor here, this is way harder than listing some super niche bands.
So for a first timer for punk I'd start with The Clash's self titled UK release (the American one has some tracks swapped out for singles). Most first wave stuff is pretty poppy but that stops very quickly. Other good first wave bands are The Damned, The Buzzcocks, The Tights, Siouxie and the Banshees (kinda started goth), Cocksparrer, The Sex Pistols and The Boys for first wave UK 77 stuff. For America you have The Ramones, The Stooges, Johnny Thunders and The Heartbreakers, The Dead Boys for early CBGB New York bands and then a bit later in California there's The Germs, X, Dead Kennedys, TSOL for early American pre-hardcore punk.
The Kids are also a sick first wave band from Belgium.
Anyway, most importantly on this journey is Crass who were the first anarcho punk band and basically started off underground DIY punk with serious politics, their music is significantly harsher than other bands at the time as well. Check them out last and maybe read up about them, they're the chronological jumping off point for 'real' punk
Happy to help. I'm a huge nerd about punk music and bands and shows and history and whatever. Having been part of it, DIY punk has been astoundingly good at creating a massive worldwide underground network. The division between performer and audience is just not there by default and anyone can and is encour to just start your own band regardless of ability. There's a good amount of bands even on that first wave list that I could get into contact with members just by asking around.
well if you like punk, i can recommend you some hardcore stuff. Check out Germs, Black Flag, Bad Brains, Rites of Spring, and Subhumans. Also maybe Wire for some artsier/postish punk, and Kommunity FK and the Christian Death debut for gothier punk.
Industrial is kinda hard to get into, but check out Einstürzende Neubauten's albums Kollaps and 1/2 Mensch for some weird dancier more rock sounding industrial, Leichenschrei by SPK for more weird soundscape stuff, and if you like metal, check out Streetcleaner by Godflesh.
I'm not huge on most 80s US hardcore. I know it very well but it's probably not gonna be a massive focus. I find a lot can just be suburban teenage boi rage where other countries were more political and poignant
Mainstream music has been complete trash since 1988. If you listen anything the average person knows about from past that year then you're doing yourself and the world a disservice.
Is this a bit?
Yes but it's also what I actually think.
It is okay to only like older music but music made after 1988 in the mainstream can still be good. Dont get me wrong, a lot of it is bad, but that was true of all eras we just have survivorship bias
It can be good. It just isn't.
Sturgeon's Law applies: 90% of everything is shit. It's possible that only 85% of post-punk and New Wave was shit, though, which accounts for the different impression.
I specifically said mainstream music, so it doesn't apply here.
I've been trying to get into music lately, do u have any reccommendations
I "got into music" by constantly streaming this college radio turned public radio out of Minneapolis while I'm working. It's not perfect, but the hosts really like music and generally keep up on the cutting edge while avoiding top 40s. After a while you'll atleast be able to talk to young folk about music that they like.
I've wasted the past year getting into music, so if you like, I can recommend you at least a little bit of music in the bounds of: hardcore punk and a few of its subgenres, most styles of emo, neofolk, hyperpop, post-punk, and post-rock; though metal is my favorite, and I could give you recommendations for most sounds in black metal, death metal, doom metal, power metal, thrash, and traditional heavy metal. I haven't gotten quite as deep into these styles, but I could also recommend you the basics for a handful of other styles if you want them, mainly slowcore, shoegaze, no wave, noise and noise rock, and kosmiche musik
I think my queue is full for now but ty for the offer
What kind of stuff do you already like? Most of my arcane knowledge is in punk, goth, new wave, industrial, weird arty stuff and things along those lines.
Working on that. I'm not a very musically inclined person. Punk is fun I guess? Idk what new wave or industrial music is like but that sounds interesting.
Ohhh, I'm starting on the ground floor here, this is way harder than listing some super niche bands.
So for a first timer for punk I'd start with The Clash's self titled UK release (the American one has some tracks swapped out for singles). Most first wave stuff is pretty poppy but that stops very quickly. Other good first wave bands are The Damned, The Buzzcocks, The Tights, Siouxie and the Banshees (kinda started goth), Cocksparrer, The Sex Pistols and The Boys for first wave UK 77 stuff. For America you have The Ramones, The Stooges, Johnny Thunders and The Heartbreakers, The Dead Boys for early CBGB New York bands and then a bit later in California there's The Germs, X, Dead Kennedys, TSOL for early American pre-hardcore punk. The Kids are also a sick first wave band from Belgium. Anyway, most importantly on this journey is Crass who were the first anarcho punk band and basically started off underground DIY punk with serious politics, their music is significantly harsher than other bands at the time as well. Check them out last and maybe read up about them, they're the chronological jumping off point for 'real' punk
Oh awesome this is so extensive thanks! I will put some of these on later.
You are now covered somewhat for punk history from 1976 to 1978 or so now.
:rosa-salute:
Happy to help. I'm a huge nerd about punk music and bands and shows and history and whatever. Having been part of it, DIY punk has been astoundingly good at creating a massive worldwide underground network. The division between performer and audience is just not there by default and anyone can and is encour to just start your own band regardless of ability. There's a good amount of bands even on that first wave list that I could get into contact with members just by asking around.
By the time your training is complete you will love this album as the classic that it is:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tWt-Q-ZacOA&t=209s
Dead Kennedys
well if you like punk, i can recommend you some hardcore stuff. Check out Germs, Black Flag, Bad Brains, Rites of Spring, and Subhumans. Also maybe Wire for some artsier/postish punk, and Kommunity FK and the Christian Death debut for gothier punk.
Industrial is kinda hard to get into, but check out Einstürzende Neubauten's albums Kollaps and 1/2 Mensch for some weird dancier more rock sounding industrial, Leichenschrei by SPK for more weird soundscape stuff, and if you like metal, check out Streetcleaner by Godflesh.
I was gonna cover hardcore/UK 82/first wave anarcho punk in the next lesson.
good idea
I'm not huge on most 80s US hardcore. I know it very well but it's probably not gonna be a massive focus. I find a lot can just be suburban teenage boi rage where other countries were more political and poignant
yeah that's fair
I still love a lot of it but it's quite a bit off from what the rest of the world was doing. I'll spin Void and Siege for days.