I haven't fully convinced myself on this line of thought but I figured I'd argue it as best I could mostly caue my lack of full conviction isnhonestly vibes based. I'd like to hear what people think. It's an ML question, feel free to answer regardless.

So, your big well known national ML communist party is full of aging intellectuals with super reactionary opinions. This is no good. What is a young and based ML citizen to do? JOIN THE PARTY IS WHAT TO DO, make sure all your comrades and friends do too. It's a super tiny little party! There's gotta be enough of us to be able to take over the party! If membership skyrockets and an influx of young people are voting against this shit in the party and calling it out in party meetings and having others there to back it up, we can totally topple the shitty old guard. Take it as your first revolutionary lesson, seize the party, don't be a splitter.

Combat Liberalism is all like:

To indulge in irresponsible criticism in private instead of actively putting forward one's suggestions to the organization. To say nothing to people to their faces but to gossip behind their backs, or to say nothing at a meeting but to gossip afterwards. To show no regard at all for the principles of collective life but to follow one's own inclination. This is a second type.

Not to obey orders but to give pride of place to one's own opinions. To demand special consideration from the organization but to reject its discipline. This is a fourth type.

To indulge in personal attacks, pick quarrels, vent personal spite or seek revenge instead of entering into an argument and struggling against incorrect views for the sake of unity or progress or getting the work done properly. This is a fifth type.

To hear incorrect views without rebutting them and even to hear counter-revolutionary remarks without reporting them, but instead to take them calmly as if nothing had happened. This is a sixth type

To see someone harming the interests of the masses and yet not feel indignant, or dissuade or stop him or reason with him, but to allow him to continue. This is an eighth type.

To work half-heartedly without a definite plan or direction; to work perfunctorily and muddle along--"So long as one remains a monk, one goes on tolling the bell." This is a ninth type.

So that's what my brain says and I'm leaning there any thoughts?

  • CrushKillDestroySwag
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    I like this plan. We need a real working class party, and not a million pretenders at being the real working class party. The question is are there enough young MLs to pull this off, and how do we coordinate? We'll be doing democratic centralism to take over a democratic centralist org, we'll need to talk and not be just a bunch of adventurers.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      Join yourself first if you think you're clever enough to suss out issues and get a glimpse of how things operate and then if you do anything else organizing wise, encourage anyone inclines towards Marxists politics to join as well. I'm feeling stronger and stronger the more I think of this. If we can't overhaul a party then we certainly can't overthrow a system. I don't really consider this a novel plan, it's just doing what we should be doing if we're ML. If you aren't that's it's own thing but if you're an ML and not a party member at you really?

      • CrushKillDestroySwag
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        So I was firing from the hip on my previous comment, but after thinking some more I think what I mostly responded to in this post is just being more involved in my local org in a general sense. I've shown up to a bunch of events hosted by different groups that I'm on the mailing list for but I've barely talked to anyone, I was a dues paying member of the DSA for a long time but I feel like I didn't get much out of it. Don't get me wrong I don't regret going to protests or building community gardens or any of that stuff, but I'm gonna make it my new years resolution to fully commit a big chunk of my free time to at least one org and actually be a member of it for a while before I start planning my rise to the top to overthrow the revisionists and restore the proper ML line.

        • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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          We are not revisionists and if you join without believing in the Party Program or Party Constitution you will likely be expelled.

          In addition, its quite crucial that you know about the org you're joining and that includes learning about how it operates and its history (and not just from the 1930s). If you want, I can provide you some resources.

    • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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      Uh, that's not really democratic centralism; what you're doing is mass entryism and is unhealthy organizationally.

      You should work with the elected leadership. We elected Joe Sims to combat people like John Bachtell.