• GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      People were really underestimating how quickly China could make chip progress, too

      • u_tamtam@programming.dev
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        11 months ago

        Whatever people's estimations, we've yet to see this progress that you are talking about. It's an interesting race for sure.

        • JuryNullification [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/china-poised-to-break-5nm-barrier-huawei-lists-5nm-processor-presumably-built-with-smic-tech-defying-us-sanctions

          SMIC makes 5nm chips with DUV tech when Intel can’t break 5nm with EUV and billions in subsidies.

          • u_tamtam@programming.dev
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            11 months ago

            What it implies to stretch the DUV process into ever thinner lithography: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th4E-0VFaEA

            Some background on how it was made: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/11/how-huawei-made-a-cutting-edge-chip-in-china-and-surprised-the-us/

            tl;dr/dw: China managed to produce small batches of semiconductors using stockpiled american and japanese equipment before sanctions kicked-in