So I know there's no "genocide" going on, and that the facilities are there to mitigate the real threat of terrorism in China, and basically every claim Western news makes about it is some Grade-A bullshit, but...

How many people are in these facilities at a given time? My BF claims it's gotta be at least 5% and that seems hella high to me. But if I google, all I get is Zenz bullshit, or people discrediting Zenz bullshit, but no real information about how many people are actually going through the reeducation/vocational training that China is doing. Does anyone have any good sources? Particularly for someone who is critical of Western news but considers Al Jazeera and AP as the pinnacle of journalistic credibility?

It's easy to discredit bullshit, but he's really caught up on knowing the real numbers here and "all your sources are straight-up lies" isn't gonna fly here if I don't have a counter-offer.

  • Dinkdink [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Just put the argument this way:

    On one side, a government made up of scientists and engineers. Xi Jinping is a chemical engineer by trade. Officially atheist.

    On the other, uneducated religious bumblefucks who think if they get killed, they get 72 raisins in heaven. The equivalent of Alabama fundamentalists.

    The atheists are forcibly educating the religious nutbags, ensuring that they can get jobs in the modern economy when they get out. They're also showing them, forcibly, how their religion is a complete lie and makes zero sense.

    If this happened in America, whose side would you choose? Why?

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        This dude's posts about China all have weird energy like this.

        BTW why would they be building mosques if the goal was to eliminate religion? Isn't Xi some sort of Buddhist?

        • Dinkdink [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          The mosques are controlled by China and dispense only state-approved messaging.

          Recently Christians got all upset because China removed the steeples from their churches (the horror!) and put cameras and microphones inside. Because oh dearie me how are they to spew homophobia and all the other well-known Christian disgusting practices without secrecy.