• ItsPequod [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Oh how generous of the Nords to allow them 1 whole alley in their city where they cannot tread otherwise, whereas in Solitude any Man or Mer may walk the streets unhindered! Indeed, that you hold parts of Skyrim to be more progressive than Windhelm is such that they retain some tradition and loyalty to the Empire! To suggest the Nords are not racist is to lay bare how the Empire, after losing to the Thalmor do not treat the Altmer in such contempt as the Nords do the Dunmer for no good reason at all save Nordic Supremacy!

    • TraumaDumpling
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      11 months ago

      '1 whole alley' its literally a third of the fucking city, they have more houses than the nords do! they can travel anywhere they want! they have thicker walls and bigger houses than the high street in whiterun! and every city in skyrim bars the khajiit traders, they are literally all fences. not all khajiit, just the ones that are travelling merchants. the fact that the empire just accept the altmer's fascist rule is not an argument in their favor, but the opposite - the altmer literally want to unmake reality. every single one of them believes in the necessity of this, it is their religion and the elder scrolls series is honestly written based on some weird racial/ethnic lines

      • booty [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        the fact that the empire just accept the altmer's fascist rule is not an argument in their favor

        They had two choices, accept a ceasefire with some concessions so that they can build strength for the next war (this is literally just a waiting game the Imperials will win--humans breed faster than elves) or die. The Stormcloaks are being ridiculous babies and the thing they're maddest about, the enforcement of the ban on Talos worship, is something they themselves brought about. It wasn't being enforced until they started protesting about it and brought undue attention to the matter. They're just fucking idiot fascists, they don't understand the situation they're in at all and everything they do makes everything worse.

        but the opposite - the altmer literally want to unmake reality.

        This is a fringe conspiracy theory even among lore nerds. No one in-universe believes this to be the case and even from our bird's eye view of the situation there is very little evidence of this. But even assuming you're right, the Stormcloaks are making their success in this endeavor significantly more likely.

        Also I'd like to point out that saying "the altmer" want to do this is really cringe and racist. Altmer are a race, made up of individuals. They aren't a hivemind and don't have a shared set of beliefs lol It would be like saying "The asians" want to do xyz when you're talking about Vietnam or India or something.

      • TraumaDumpling
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        11 months ago

        literally, more dark elf housing with better construction than the nords have, in their own fucking city in the middle of a fucking civil war! What other nordic cities can say the same? which other nordic city accepted a third of their population to be foreign refugees? which other nords offered a third of their city to elf refugees? None of them!

        • booty [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          The text, explicitly: "These people are restricted to a ghetto and when they dare to venture out they are openly mistreated by the extremely racist local population. Look, here's an example literally right in front of your face the moment you enter the city. Look at it. This is an oppressed population."

          You, somehow: "Wow, the dark elves really got it good here!"

          • TraumaDumpling
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            11 months ago

            the example 'right in your face' literally turns out to be an imperial spy lmao, literally 2 people harassing a spy does not = a racist movement. cite another specific example and you may have a point.

            • booty [he/him]
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              11 months ago

              debate-me-debate-me Do you have any more evidence that the Stormcloaks are racist? this is a truestl quality post, 10/10

              • TraumaDumpling
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                11 months ago

                i have proven to my own satisfaction that the stormcloaks are significantly less racist than any other nord city in skyrim, and i have already shown that the single instance of harassment is literally against a literal imperial spy. if you don't understand how that proves me correct about the stormcloaks being the least racist faction of the civil war beside maybe the reachmen (who kill all foreigners indiscriminately but have an excuse in being the current target of indiscriminate genocide themselves) then theres no point in further engagement

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          3 months ago

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          • TraumaDumpling
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            11 months ago

            literally every faction in skyrim is racist against the khajiits, literally every khajiit merchant in the game is a fence and will buy stolen goods no questions asked. that is a kind of racism built into the game world by the writers, but the stormcloaks are not unique in that regard. every nord in skyrim basically hates elves anyway, most of them don't give them 1/3rd of their town