Like climate change seems really easy to solve if we just plant a bunch of jojoba bushes in the Mojave desert.
Also it’s the easiest thing to get the billionaires on board. Argue we are learning how to terraform Mars and suddenly Bezos and Musks’s meats would be spinning.
No it would not help. Yes the biosphere is fragile , but what are we doing when we have to deal with 10 billion people and 1.5C growth on the conservative end come 2050.
Is restoration and conservation in high CO2 capturing environments the only answer? I just don’t see that happening with the Amazon anytime soon.
At this point we can't go back, we should just stop all fossil fuel and let nature determine how she will face the new environment. Humanity has proven not up to the task of terraforming, given how badly we've fumbled so far, we should just let the cycles of nature even themselves out and just clean up the plastic.
Indigenous peoples beg to differ
I may be severely mistaken, but I believe that indigenous peoples have in general worked more with the land as it is, not made an irrigation nightmare in the desert.
They certainly have, but we must be careful not to fall into noble savage type mythologies here. Everywhere people have lived, from the Amazon, to Europe, and Asia, indigenous peoples have deliberately and methodically shaped the ecology of their native lands.
To call that not terroforming is to deny their successes and to centre this much needed science solely on white imperialist history and experience.
then perhaps I should regard that as light terraforming, not to dismiss its effects but to acknowledge it as not being as damaging as heavy terraforming which is what we now suggest.
I don't think I'm willing to cede this knowledge space to tech bro douchbags like Musk and Gates. Indigenous practices aren't "light" terroforming, they're successful terroforming. All the sci-fi shit being proposed is mostly just capitalist vaporware and grift.
we've been pretty successful in terraforming swamps into cities and deserts into farms, leveling mountains and making lakebeds dry. These things require more technology, and are also way more destructive.
Are you being deliberately obtuse right now, or just firing from the hip as the comments come in? The topic of this sub-thread is examples of successful and sustainable terroforming and how indigenous practices count for that. How is your comment a good response to my previous one?
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