but..people who consider themselves capitalist libs do all that, arguably.

It's interesting how people see themselves.

People around here might get caught with some weed or whatever a few times,go through the system, and will describe themselves as criminals just in conversation.

People in rich areas do the same thing, but are much less likely to be caught. For them it's just part of growing up, on their way to a life of institutionalized tax evasion and privatization and pushing the envelope. They will never, ever, describe themselves as criminals no matter how many times they've been through the court.