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  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    No, because plants and trees respond to negative stimuli. Do rocks? Are ghosts real? These aren't real equivalencies and you know it

    • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      But as we've already covered, pain isn't a response to a negative stimulus. My reflexive reaction to touching something hot is not a reaction to pain. As you said, we don't fully understand where pain comes from, so who's to say rocks can't feel it?

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I definitely like discussing and thinking about this, but my premise is that pain, or at least some unpleasant sensation, does occur as a response to negative stimuli.

        Plants show a response to negative stimuli, therefore maybe they feel some kind of unpleasant sensation.

        Bringing rocks into it doesn't jive with either of our definitions of pain and is being a bit ludicrous.

        • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          The point I'm making is that pain happens in the brain. No brain no pain. If you bring plants into it, you disconnect pain from the brain and get into the realm of "ok, maybe pain is just magic"