Oh! Oh! I remember vibrating out of my skin when I related this back to, on the Indigeneity & Palestine episode on Guerilla History, they critiqued how solidarity is a shallow and comfortable affect that we don't experience materially. That we should all declare treason against white supremacy, and when we do they come for us to beat it back into us. It's fine for indigenous people to protest for indigenous people, it's fine for Black people to protest for Black people, but a mulit-racial and multi-ethic movement is forbidden. We can't even talk about it, and Lies points out how our textbooks don't talk about white anti-racists like John Brown, because that's actually a tangible threat to colonialism.

(btw I looked for a transcript but couldn't find it. It's a two hour episode, trying to scan for the exact passage is just frustrating lol)