Western models predicted twice the actual warming in the troposphere. Western models also predicted that the Pacific Ocean would heat up uniformly, but the Eastern Pacific is cooling.
A large portion of the Pacific Ocean (Pacific Ocean is1/3rd of the Earth's surface area) is cooling, as well as the Southern Ocean and parts of Antarctica. https://thebulletin.org/2022/12/whats-wrong-with-these-climate-models/
Is this actually the western climate model, or the sensationalist oversimplified newspaper version that gets everything wrong? At this point the west is perpetually dealing with 2 sets of data on everything, the actual original research, and the version that gets sold to the public. And they very rarely match up.
This just sounds like a misinterpretation. Of course the part of the Pacific closest to the Arctic would start cooling, because of the ice melting. The question is if it is just "science" "journalists" not having any clue what they're talking about, or if it is actually higher up the chain.
Climategate and Climategate 2.0
Himalaya Gate as well https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/ipcc-finally-acknowledges-its-e2809chimalayan-blundere2809d/
Al Gore said that there was a 75% chance of the Arctic being ice-free by 2013. He then said that he misstated the scientists findings, which were clarified as:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2009/12/al_gore_trips_on_artic_ice_mis.html
Dr Maslowki, who works at the US Naval Postgraduate School in California, said that his latest results give a six-year projection for the melting of 80 per cent of the ice, but he said he expects some ice to remain beyond 2020.
80% sea ice loss by 2015 or earlier? Even that's wrong by a long shot, Arctic sea ice for this time of year has been at its highest in 20-21 years.
https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/
There's not much difference between the 21 years, nothing like 80% lower.
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Thanks for getting back to me on that with some good sources! I really appreciate it.
Though it does still seem like this is much more of western "journalists" taking an inflammatory and over the top statement and removing it from it's context and running with it. A single scientist making an outrageous claim and the media obsessing over it isn't the same as the full climate model that they use (Not saying it can't be, just that the press in the west is in the business of fearmongering and lying, so of course they would fearmonger and lie about this too.)
