The Romans had people mutilate themselves in public in the arena- how can you know that and not imagine that the life's of the people watching were even more wretched?
How many levels of free market "consent" are you on? Free people who chose to become gladiators knew what they were signing up for back then too, it doesn't mean something's okay because people willingly do it.
How do you not know that gladiator fights used slaves?
You're right, gladiators were categorically slaves - however there were people that freely chose to become gladiators ( and therefore "willingly", or at least were not forced by threat of torture/death, became slaves). I agree with you, I was trying to make the point that it ( and the NFL, to your point) are bad even if people have a choice in participating.
From what I understand, grappling was quite a big part of ancient combat . Gladiators were trained to fight with a bit more flair, so it would be comparable to modern day pro wrestling, but people would die.
If we had combat sports that people voluntary participated in (not economically forced into and excellent health care) I would be all about that. Hell if I was less broken I'd sign up.
The Romans had people mutilate themselves in public in the arena- how can you know that and not imagine that the life's of the people watching were even more wretched?
Some Roman emperors catapulted snakes into crowds of people that's the level of not giving a shit they were operating at
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_San_Fernando_massacre
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How many levels of free market "consent" are you on? Free people who chose to become gladiators knew what they were signing up for back then too, it doesn't mean something's okay because people willingly do it.
How do you not know that gladiator fights used slaves?
Also, we already have the modern "free market" equivalent of gladiator fights, it's called the NFL.
You're right, gladiators were categorically slaves - however there were people that freely chose to become gladiators ( and therefore "willingly", or at least were not forced by threat of torture/death, became slaves). I agree with you, I was trying to make the point that it ( and the NFL, to your point) are bad even if people have a choice in participating.
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From what I understand, grappling was quite a big part of ancient combat . Gladiators were trained to fight with a bit more flair, so it would be comparable to modern day pro wrestling, but people would die.
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:what-the-hell:
If we had combat sports that people voluntary participated in (not economically forced into and excellent health care) I would be all about that. Hell if I was less broken I'd sign up.
So you want IRL Squid Game
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