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  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Again, if we’re talking idealized justice here (and I don’t claim it existed in aes), making things as they were is exactly restoration. Person/thing stolen from gets remade, person doing stealing is either discouraged (if he finds labor bad) or continues living bravely stealing and being assigned random jobs.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        3 years ago

        That's a pretty narrow definition of punishment. Most philosophical arguments for punishment are not based on revenge.

        • Ithorian [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          Discipline is used to correct behavior, punishment is for causing suffering not correction.

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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            3 years ago

            I don't agree with that definition, I don't think that's consistent with how the words are used either in a formal or informal context.

            • Ithorian [comrade/them]
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              3 years ago

              Fair enough. To be clear I'm not opposed to suffering as a form of behavior modification I'm opposed to it when it's sole purpose is retribution.

      • comi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I think as you say it’s mostly anger, at max they should enter an arena get couple of soft tomatoes thrown and laughed at

          • comi [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The issue with social media some things are wildly out of scale, you can simultaneously insult 1000s of people, it just not possible to fix this in lifetime.

            Therefore social media shouldn’t exist

              • comi [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                But that again runs into a problem that it’s abstractly equal, but not really restorative. It’s a hard problem, and likely some prison abolition comrades thought more about it :meow-floppy:

      • jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        killing them works as it stops them from causing further problems

        hurting them without killing them is fucked