Every day I feel getting closer and closer to adventure-time Liberals don't want real liberation for palestine. They have a fetish for defeat. I literally cannot have half a conversation with anyone above the age of 30 without racist chauvinism or hearing them justify imperialism.

  • CommieGabredabok [he/him, comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    I love that quote, never seen it before.

    My father and I were actually arguing for over two and a half hours straight. As you can expect, with him lazily going through narratives from the NED, Amnesty International, "human nature," and "authoritarianism." All the while blaming Russians for Amerika's racism, praising the democratic establishment, and defending the first gulf war. We hung up after he conceded on the gulf war.

    I don't think their is a single family member of mine (other than like, my cousin) that doesn't deserve the wall.

    • Wheaties [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      Family can be frustrating as hell. My own dad seems to expect there will be some point where everyone just realizes they need to "stop being greedy" -- with nothing precipitating that. He hates the idea that systemic changes will have to precede mass behavioral changes. He'll concede that China is getting results, but believes that it's going about it the wrong way and is thus no better than the US.

      However, people don't deserve "walls" simply for regurgitating what's in their media environment. My dad and your dad may say some silly things -- that's unfortunate, but not surprising given the circumstances. What matters is how they act, how they treat people day to day.

      • CommieGabredabok [he/him, comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        He is a white midwestern liberal American that is an active member of the US airforce.

        I don't mean to get "third worldist" or "adventurist," and maybe I am just out of my mind right now, but he gets the wall for sure.

        • Wheaties [she/her]
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          11 months ago

          By all means, be a third worldist -- but remember, adventurism only makes your contributions all the more finite.

          So if you're going to be an anarchist third worldist, you need to consider:

          • Having the longest career in anarchism third worldism possible (i.e. being careful enough and judicious with your actions so that you don't get expelled from the system you wish to fight).

          https://www.tumblr.com/thefloralmenace/737296490498768896/somewhat-on-the-vibe-of-your-glorious-revolution

    • Deadend [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      You may be a secret sibling of mine, as I’ve had this conversation as well.