• parpol@programming.dev
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    10 months ago

    I would be fine with admitting that China is part of west Taiwan, rather than the opposite.

    Here's a few more fun facts: the Pearl necklace failed, the skyline doesn't lie, the east sea belongs mainly to south east Asian countries, and painting your ground green doesn't fool anyone.

    • DengistDonnieDarko [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      You can take the redditor out of reddit, but you can't take the reddit out of the redditor. Many such cases 😔

      • parpol@programming.dev
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        10 months ago

        Cope is a synonym for true now, apparently, or do you offer any credible sources that disprove what I just said?

        Don't worry, you can be honest here. I'm sure none of the little pinks in this thread will report you.

          • parpol@programming.dev
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            10 months ago

            What statements exactly? That spraypainting mountains green and rolling out plastic leaves over barren cliffs isn't fooling anyone? Because it isn't. Or that the sea disputes China has with its neighbors are overwhelmingly judged as China trying to grab land that doesn't belong to them? Because no one is backing China on this one. Or that the Indian necklace of diamonds ended up surrounding the Chinese string of pearls? Because it did.

            • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              Couple things: the fake leaves is purely aesthetic, there'd be no need to fake it since China's actual afforestation efforts outstrips the rest of the world. It's not meant to fool anyone any more than Mount Rushmore is meant to fool people into thinking there are gigantic presidents roaming the US.

              Oh and China's 9 dash line is inherited from your beloved ROC. As in in 1947, before the end of the civil war, the Republic of China claimed the majority of the south China sea as Chinese and the PRC inherited ROC territories as the de facto victors of the civil war. And even then it's smaller than Ming dynasty and Qing dynasty claims to the waters. The PRC is no more landgrabby than any former Chinese government. Do you know who China "grabbed" the Spratly islands from? France. Even if you see it as imperialism, it's way more defensible than France having ownership of the south China sea or Britain having the Falklands.

              And you really wanna look into who coined the string of pearls claim: Booz Allen Hamilton, the company contracted to spy on Americans, the one that employed Edward Snowden, the one whose contract mysteriously increased from $2 million to $70 million in 2007. Their goal is to fearmonger Americans to increase military intelligence spending. You're falling hook, line and sinker for MIC propaganda. If India and China are such bitter rivals, ""border disputes"" wouldn't be solved with sticks and India wouldn't be in BRICS.

              This is what we mean by cope: grasping at the least credible theories around because the YouTube algorithm gave you some China "experts" and you took their word as fact.

            • DengistDonnieDarko [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              Indian necklace of diamonds ended up surrounding the Chinese string of pearls

              What is this referencing?

              • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                This is referencing a hypothesis coined by Booz Allen Hamilton, an American military intelligence contractor. It hypothesized that China will try and secure its borders in the Indian Ocean with civilian infrastructure. This was in 2004 when China-Pakistan relations were improving, and was fearmongering that India would have it's maritime territories seized by China. Kind of moot now that India is in BRICS.

                Booz Allen Hamilton also famously employed Edward Snowden at the time of the leaks. BAH were contractors for the NSA for the PRISM project. Also, in 2007, it was discovered their contract with the department of homeland security went from $2 million USD to $70 million USD, a 3500% increase, and BAH's parent companies made considerable donations to John McCain's presidential campaign (which I think is a conflict of interest when your subsidiary is a government contractor)

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          soypoint-1 Everyone who disagrees with me is a Chinese bot in China soypoint-2

          You're going through all the most unoriginal bullshit pretty fast, next your lemmitor ass is probably going to say Winnie the Pooh or Tiananmen Square.

          • NPa [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            jotaro-walk "The next thing you'll say is ' minus 1000 social credit points'

            yiiking-out " minus 1000 ... "

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      thoughts on the ROC's claims to Outer Mongolia?

      • parpol@programming.dev
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        10 months ago

        Literally not even true.

        This is a decades long malicious disinformation campaign from Chinese ops. It is verifiably, 100% untrue and hasn't been true for a long time.

        In 1993 the Legislative Yuan asked the Judicial Yuan to clarify what the official territory of the ROC is. Interpretation No. 328 ruled that the legislative intent of the term “inherent/existing” was specifically to avoid setting down precise boundaries, since the areas controlled by the ROC at the time were continually shifting with the tides of the Chinese Civil War. The interpretation thus held that the phrase is political question that cannot be assigned any fixed legal definition.

        They officially declared Mongolia to be an independent country in 2002.

        • Mindfury [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          and you expect me to believe some photoshopped document over years of historical proof that Taiwan consider Ulaanbaatar rightful Taiwanese clay?

          okay sure thing. next you'll say something as ridiculous as Arunachal Pradesh is India.

          also you forgot the bit about princeton press

          • parpol@programming.dev
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            10 months ago

            "Historical proof" They officially declared Mongolia independent in 2002, what else is there to say? Do you want another official statement?

            As for India, I have no clue about their stance. India is irrelevant to this topic, and you're throwing whataboutism.

            And yes, I copied some of the text from a Reddit post. It doesn't invalidate what I said.