• BurningVIP
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  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    first reply is some PMC shitstain jerking off over whether will they provide the same quality customer service as ASML

    :pathetic:

    • bort_simp_son [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      That's some delicious copeium.

      Every corporation on earth: "why shouldn't we just buy China's chips if they're cheaper?"

      American PMC's: "they don't have our quality customer service..."

      Every corporation on earth: "LOL. LMAO."

      • JuryNullification [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        ASML is a Dutch company. They don’t manufacture chips, they manufacture the production tools that manufacture chips for customers like Intel, Samsung, etc.

        • spectre [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          The machines are incredibly complicated too, which is why support from the manufacturer could indeed be a factor in keeping things running. It's a very solvable problem, though, especially if the government or company are willing to fund the development well enough to train a large staff of support engineers.

    • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      A military chud will eventually steal a nuke and then accidentally blow himself and his Nebraskan small town to smithereens.

    • Quimby [any, any]
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      3 years ago

      Admit it? It's not a secret! We literally put it up on posters in government buildings as a reminder. We're stuck in a 1700s view of the world where are the countries are in a competition with each other and progress is a zero-sum game.

        • Quimby [any, any]
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          3 years ago

          Can't find a poster, but this informational pamphlet should give you a good idea! https://www.dni.gov/files/NCSC/documents/products/Govt_Best_Practices_Guide_Insider_Threat.pdf

          Dire warnings about companies losing "potential" revenue to "overseas competitors" through such nefarious practices as... hiring consultants to do work.

    • Owl [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      they’ll probably lose the launch codes or have neglected the infrastructure for so long it’ll blow up in the silo

      Don't forget the possibility of something failing in the cryptographic Rube Goldberg machine that links the launch codes to the nukes!

  • discountsocialism [none/use name]
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    Damn we would have been able to benefit if all Huawei products weren't banned in the US because of 'national security', which was actually just protectionism to promote domestic producers.

    All of these 'trade war' decisions are so half baked and always end up hurting the US. For example they banned Huawei from using the google play store which effectively disrupts google's monopoly status on phone apps. Huawei just made it super easy to download third party apps so people who would have paid for apps now just pirate them instead or directly go to the makers and purchase it directly. Absolutely hilarious.

  • Lundi [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    What does this mean? What could Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography be useful for?

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      A manufacturing technique for really, really small semiconductors that only a couple companies have (I think Samsung?). We're rapidly approaching the point where semiconductor-based computer chips won't be able to get any smaller for quantum physics reasons, so this might be the last time west-aligned computer chip manufacturers ever have a technological advantage on Chinese ones.

    • geikei [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      https://www.wired.com/story/asml-extreme-ultraviolet-lithography-chips-moores-law/

      To add to the rest , Dutch firm ASML, a spinoff of Philips NV, is the world’s only producer of Extreme Ultra-Violet (EUV) lithography machines that etch impossibly small patterns on 5- and 7-nanometer chips. Samsung and TSMC are the only companies who have used EUV systems in production and huge reaseon behind Taiwan's importance economicaly and one of the fields that the west and its allies has been comfortably ahead of China for years and its a monumental field. But it satyed ahead of cource with dirty tactics. At the request of the US government, Holland canceled the sale of an ASML machine to China late in 2019 ,sanctioning any ASML-china transaction and has blocked every tech ,tool and info transaction towards China regarding EUV Lithography it can, trying to keep China from attaining parity in semiconductor tech and production cepabilities at all costs.

      But it seems like this is an obstacle China will overcome and has put a lot focus on it, developing the related tech and capabilities and finaly (hopefully) making the leap to parity

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  • thirstywizard [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Good. Dust, heat, humidity are the enemies of the ever smaller semiconductors, that's afaik why clock speed sort of has been where it is and why in chip development in general the focus has been on 'parallel processing' (3.0ghz x8) rather than a single 12ghz processor for example.