• geikei [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    You think that working conditions and hours got worse under Deng and after reform and oppening up compared to the 50s and 60s ? That they were getting so much more of their labour value back ? And even if thats true and there was a substancial turn for the worse for the Chinese workers at that point, within 15-20 years wage and infastructure increases outpaced and overcovered any "increase in exploitation" from reform and oppening up by a big degree

    Also yeah when your billion people country begins its socialist project as a medieval shithole a century behind the rest of the world and capitalist powers your workers will have to "slave" (aka not get their labour value back and put in serious hours in not good conditions) one way or another for a generation or two if you wanna have a hope to catch up in all ways. Cause imperialism and colonialism isnt an available tool for you, you are socialist. You cant get rich and prosperus by raping and pillaging the globe. You have to get out of the mud and develop x4 fatser with your own citizens labor and work hours

    • s0ykaf [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      people seriously need to stop romanticizing the maoist era

      urban workers were living in single room apartments (in those tube-shaped buildings) with their whole family for fucks sake

      not to mention all the peasants who couldn't afford a god damn bicycle do people think they had flying cars or something