Hunting is nothing but a shitty vanity project by whites who have nothing else in their """""culture"""""" besides senseless death and vain overconsumption. You do not fucking need venison. If you want to clog your arteries with shitass red meat just go to the butcher or shitty walmart 200 miles away fro. Your hohse and buy it, dipshit. You can even buy game meat too. "B-but!!!" I hear you shitass liberal cuckhold dont tread on me dip-eating muzlzleloading meemaws and peepaws saying, "it costs so much!!!"
Wanna know what else costs so much? Guns, bullets, gas, hunting kicense, processing fees.. and youre not even guaranteed to get a deer with it! Lmao! "B-but.. my dad taught me to kill animals for no reason!!!!!!!"
Your dad was a shitass moron who probably beat yyou too. You shitty kidwestern ceramic demons have nothing else in your culture besuxes glutting yourself on the dead, be it minorities or animals.
You have no culture, you are a an abberation on this earth. Half the time yourw drunk while using guns! Nd you cant even find your deer afted you shoot it!!! Or you just fucking take the antlers and leVe the meat to rot!
"B-but it connects me with nature!"
One: nature that isn't YOURS, blanqui.
Two: FORAGE FOR MUSHROOMS, DUMMY! THEYRE BETTER FOR YOU!
Three: you are WHITE!!!! Spend your money on a shitty stanley cup oe the next funko pop. Youre jot a mountain man. Youre not a bushman. Youre not a fucking outdoorsman. You go out to kill an animal and heft your pig like body out huffing the entire way. Or you sit in your car and shoot from there and get your shitty faikson to drive his ATV you bought with money gktten from slave labor to pick it up as you smoke 5 packs and chew 4 tins of dip and eat 20 cheesebuegers you disgusting american abberation against humanity
Burn the corpses or something. Quit making animal bodies a "resource" to be exploited. That is how eg. ivory poaching is dealt with.
The solution to everything isn't creating a market out of it to exploit yet more profit
i didn't suggest that at all. it's just offensive to me to kill animals that we are practiced at using the resources of and then just burning it for reasons. i'm not making animal bodies a resource to be exploited by suggesting that if they are killed they should be used. you coming for indigenous practices of ecology next, or what?
No, that isn't for me to discuss. I'm not sure if you are indigenous or not. I'll leave it to indigenous people to discuss.
I am talking about capitalist states exploiting animal bodies because they see "pest control" and read "potential market to exploit," pushing propaganda that we should kill deer because ___ and that not using their body parts is wrong because ___. If those blanks are filled in with indigenous beliefs but are actually carried out by white people and corporations, then we've got a problem
you are demonstrably not.
you have said to me this
which is equating deer with vermin,
and this
which is unrelated to the idea of solving the immediate problem of industrialized urban development creating unsustainable conditions for deer population explosion and then extinction, which requires ecological management of some sort to save the deer themselves. yes, that's because of a problem caused by capitalism, but nobody is talking about that. you and i are not discussing whether capitalism ethically creates the means and conditions for handling that ecological problem: it obviously does not. you're also not making an argument about the socioeconomics of the hunting industry, which absolutely exists, and serves people who are far far crueler to animals than the very wide set of people that would prefer to use the deer rather than kill and burn it.
i ask this as a general point to you, a member of this communist website to ponder: do you want to feel proud for owning me morally, or do you want to actually try to convince people that they shouldn't eat the deer, etc.? because you're not going to convince even good faith people of whatever you're arguing when you form your arguments like this. i might agree with all or most of your thoughts, but it's hard to tell when you're just angrily shouting at people.
insidious propaganda such as: "maybe we should avoid ecological collapse" and "maybe we should actually do something useful with the bodies instead of just leaving them to rot"
it is actually illegal for white people to practice indigenous ecology - you apparently
You're recreating the ivory market, where they just kill the animal and then burn the corpse because they don't give a shit about not wasting the animal aka viewing it as a resource.
You're saying the ivory trade involves indiscriminate killing of animals and destroying their bodies totally, including the tusks/horns/etc? Not killing animals with the largest tusks/horns/etc. and selling that ivory?
Also that the ivory trade would be marginally okay if the hunters and poachers ate a little elephant meat before sawing off its tusks? The elephant is dead no matter what. The reason for its death is the tusks.
If the goal is indeed to indiscriminately kill animals to reduce their population, the solution isn't to create a market for artificial selective population pressure. This is why elephants are evolving to have smaller tusks: these are the ones that survive the gaze of ivory hunters.
literally nobody said that
And the deer is dead no matter what. Why not use the body for something useful?
I'm following your ethical logic. The killing itself is not bad, but how much you use the corpse. Doing nothing with it is bad. Doing something is better. Using all of it is best?
Because using it for something useful is what caused it to be dead in the first place