• Does_KJU_Have_Drip [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Well that’s because the 1st matrix movie is just Plato’s allegory of the cave. It’s trite philosophy 101 shit that is fun but not that insightful.

      The sequels, despite being much worse movies, had better philosophical messages. It’s too bad they chose to deliver them through boring exposition instead of exploring the ideas like in the 1st film

      The point of Baudrillard is not that we live in a fake reality and we can just escape it to the real truth. It’s that it’s not clear there even exists a real truth, and that multiple layers of symbols and deceptions confuses us to the point of total disconnect from meaning. The later films show how Zion, the “truth” is also a fake manufactured reality and part of a cycle of deception. It’s shows that Neo escapes this cycle only through a contradiction in the system itself becoming too successful and entering a feedback loop (Agent Smith becoming viral). Neo didn’t defeat the Matrix, he saved it and changed it - he didn’t end the cycle he just altered it so that humans and robot struggle was resolved. It was a dialectical transcendence, not a total destruction of the “fake”

      • Duckduck [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Well that’s because the 1st matrix movie is just Plato’s allegory of the cave. It’s trite philosophy 101 shit that is fun but not that insightful.

        With Kung Fu fighting and slo-mo bullet time. You forgot that part. Sure the philosophy was banal but boy that Kung Fu fighting...those dudes were fast as lightning.

      • PrideBoy [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Oh this makes me want to watch the 2nd and 3rd movie. They looked terrible so i never bothered.