The same day I quit the retail job someone told me that they thought doing online sex work is "exploiting myself." The work isn't exploitative, especially when compared with these low-wage positions where they overwork and mistreat employees.

https://www.businessinsider.com/great-resignation-teacher-onlyfans-bbw-model-money-jobs-work-careers-2022-1

  • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]
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    Early education is important and all these jobs treating people shitty sucks. Good for her getting out of it and not dealing with the boss's shit.

    This reminds me of all the STEM people wasted in finance and software engineer jobs. Or doing actual engineering but working for Raytheon.

    The next Newton is probably working in one of those two fields and it's all a massive waste of education under capitalism. Good teachers/nurses leave the field because of how badly they're treated. Everything is a massive waste of skill and education because of how capital decides to allocate money for stupid shit that doesn't help people.

    This is good for her under capitalism but also depressing (not for anti-sex work puritanism but just for how skilled people can't use their skills in a way that's useful to society even when they want to because of bad working conditions)

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Good for her getting out of it and not dealing with the boss’s shit.

      I hate these articles that continuously juxtapose public sector work with sex work, as it chronically suggests these are the only two things women are good at.

      This reminds me of all the STEM people wasted in finance and software engineer jobs.

      It's not the same, because you're not paying to objectify a guy doing DBA work at a bank. Even hiding behind "Sex Work Is Work" doesn't get you away from the hard fact that all her accrued education and experience is getting flushed so some slob can tip her and extra $20 to see her tits.

      This is good for her under capitalism but also depressing (not for anti-sex work puritanism but just for how skilled people can’t use their skills in a way that’s useful to society even when they want to because of bad working conditions)

      It's frustrating for a host of reasons. But given how disposable sex-workers are treated, it just feels like Business Insider is suggesting "Get out of that frying pan and into this fire".

      Being a CamGirl is basically just piece-work for sex workers. And its a dead-end career for the same reason doing Uber Eats or Fivr is a dead end. This isn't even "good for her" good. It's just a road to further economic pain, now that we've closed off career paths that are sustainable past the point of your first few wrinkles.

      • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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        It’s not the same, because you’re not paying to objectify a guy doing DBA work at a bank. Even hiding behind “Sex Work Is Work” doesn’t get you away from the hard fact that all her accrued education and experience is getting flushed so some slob can tip her and extra $20 to see her tits.

        This doesn't bother her and it shouldn't bother you. What she does with her body is her choice. Also, most people don't use their education/degree in their jobs. That sucks, but is a problem with capitalism and not sex work.

        Being a CamGirl is basically just piece-work for sex workers. And its a dead-end career for the same reason doing Uber Eats or Fivr is a dead end.

        Or being a retail worker. Or a preschool teacher. Or a waiter. Or a (lists off every job besides trades and some white collar work).

        It's all dead end work, that's capitalism.

        now that we’ve closed off career paths that are sustainable past the point of your first few wrinkles

        No career paths are closed off to her and most sex workers understand it's something that you only do for a decade or so. It's extremely similar to a sports career in that way now that I think about it.

          • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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            3 years ago

            No such thing in a capitalist society.

            bruh that is an extremely fucked response to "women have bodily autonomy"

            She’s not doing this for love of the game. She’s doing it for scratch.

            So is literally everyone else who gets up in the morning and works for a living lolol no one does their job for "love of the game". So confused by why your fixated on this. 😂

            You’re not going to lose your job as a preschool teacher because your tits are sagging.

            No you'll just lose it because your trans or too sick to come in or because your boss sucks or a thousand other reasons.

            It’s not that simple nor is it apparent. Getting into the job market with a ten year gap on your resume is non-trivial, just for starters.

            "I raised my kids and was a stay at home mom." Boom. You've just used sexism against them. Also most "entry level" jobs dgaf.

    • KermitTheFraud [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Isaac Newton, but instead of establishing classical mechanics he’s swearing at his IDE because he can’t remember how to center a div

      • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Nikola Tesla writing a billing system SOAP webservice in Java and on the verge of a mental breakdown because Eclipse corrupted his workspace again and now basic copy/paste functionality doesn't work FOR THE FIFTEENTH FUCKING TIME THIS FUCKING WEEK OH MY GOD WHY ARE THESE DEVELOPMENT WORKSTATIONS SO GODDAMNED SHITTY

      • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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        I feel that everytime I clock-in. I got my CS degree to be a cool cyberpunk hacker who uses their technomagic for good. But alas, I am the one of the codedrones of the MEGACORPS. It Fuckin' sucks ass.

        :rage-cry:

    • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      This reminds me of all the STEM people wasted in finance and software engineer jobs.

      I get that you're mostly talking about science, engineering, and math students, but you do realize that the T stands for Technology (often a shorthand for computer science and IT), right? Also, I think it's shitty to lump software engineering in with finance as if they're equally worthless fields.

      (Side note: I do want to get out of software and into engineering, but what's holding me back is the necessity of getting into grad school to pursue that, not a lack of financial means.)

      • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        My perception of the software industry is that you make more money wasting time on stupid bullshit like being the guy building up the metaverse for facebook, or working on tools to more effectively advertise online than doing cool necessary stuff. Or working on ways to integrate twitter on a smart fridge. Or most of IoT.

        The tech behind Alexa is cool but also it's depressing that it only exists to get the advertisers into your home.

        I'm not lumping in things together based on being equally as bad/useless, because in my mind working for raytheon is by far the worst but is useful in actually making something. And software engineering would still need to exist a lot more than finance under communism (but everything open source) so it definitely has its use. But the applications that actual useful/cool tech is used for is stupid. And it's stupid all the time/energy that parallel development wastes, basically everyone trying to develop a self-driving car which would be a great feat of engineering, but wasted because it would just cement the car further over funding functional public transit.

        I just think everyone working at facebook and some (not all) working at google is a waste of manpower.

        EDIT: also in my mind tech includes technicians and machinists and those types of people who are skilled labour but not with 4 year degrees, and computer science is under science because it is a sort of research.

        • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          People keep saying "walk with your feet" but 99% of my job opportunities are basically just inventing new unnecessary and useless ways to be a middleman or a gate keeper.

        • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          My perception of the software industry is that you make more money wasting time on stupid bullshit like being the guy building up the metaverse for facebook, or working on tools to more effectively advertise online than doing cool necessary stuff. Or working on ways to integrate twitter on a smart fridge. Or most of IoT.

          Yes and no, really. There are software engineers doing high-end GPU computing stuff for things like drug design, which are genuinely valuable (or at least should be--drug companies often chase drugs of questionable value to society) that get paid better than do the people working on any of the stuff you mentioned. At the same time, though, you're right that a ton of the money in software goes to work that is not actually valuable (my own job, working on health-care related software, is focused on the billing side of things, so I would classify it in the latter category, sadly).

          In general, though, I agree with what you're saying here; I think it was just a bit inelegantly expressed in your original comment.

          • thisismyrealname [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            obviously software engineers aren't the "most" important labor (if it even makes sense to rank most jobs by importance), but imagine what we could do as a species if 80% of them weren't working on the next bluetooth dildo or blockchain-enabled smart faucet

        • steve5487 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          the worst but is useful in actually making something

          depends how long a view you take as the thing you made will be used to destroy something make you net destructive rather than productive

    • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      This reminds me of all the STEM people wasted in finance and software engineer jobs. Or doing actual engineering but working for Raytheon.

      Honestly she's even better than they are because she's doing something useful for society instead of figuring out how to build adtrackers or drone bombs.