Open to suggestions about what to do with States and Provinces.

  • DanComrd [comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    Broke: American states still exist and no Palestine. Woke: United Ireland and Korean Peninsula

  • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    Western Sahara should be it’s own country independent of Morocco or the “North African Union”.

    Also why was Finland and northern Norway annexed into what I assume would be the Soviet Union? Why is Afghanistan, Poland, Kurdistan, and many other countries not independent socialist republics? Why did the Soviets go ham on the annexation in general?

    Also giving all of the US territory to Mexico seems bizarre. That land was never really Mexican, it was annexed and conquered as part of the Spanish empire and it’s colonialization. All that land should be independent and governed by an independent socialist government with indigenous representation. Native Americans and citizens of Utah, have absolutely zero in common with the average Mexican in terms of most metrics.

    Was was South Sudan incorporated back into Sudan? There was a 30 year kind civil war and ethnic cleansing campaign against that entire notion. That’s why the country is South Sudan exists? Why have they been reintegrated?

    Greece taking over Istanbul??? Huh???

    Czechoslovakia losing its tail randomly?

    • Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      Whole North Africa and Middle East is united into socialist republic, why should just Sahara be left out?

      Because Finland was supposed to be part of USSR during Civil War but unfortunately fascists won there and now today we have nazi Finland since WW2, Northern Norway WAS controlled by USSR during WW2, I also added Svalbard islands to USSR and besides, why not? I considered leaving Afghanistan and Poland as is, but Poland being Poland is too dangerous to be left alone, let alone parts of it were also supposed to be part of USSR during Civil War. I also wanted to leave Afghanistan as is, but considering the last 40 years, yeah it was better off during USSR government, it would be much safer being part of USSR. This map didn't have option for Kurdistan borders, I don't know exactly where to paint them

      I literally gave just 10 States to Mexico, not all of USA, everything else is independent including of course Hawaii and Puerto Rico, these 10 were stolen by USA in 1800s AFTER Spanish left, Mexico had that territory after Spanish and we're talking about today's Mexico regardless. I probably messed it by making every other State independent as there should be some kind of socialist Native American union including the Provinces of Canada.

      Again, this is socialist Arab Republic, not genocidal Sudanese government, same thing as in rest of the countries in North Africa and Middle East.

      Czechoslovakia didn't lose anything, I just merged Czech Republic and Slovakia, they are still in same shape as they were before 30 years.

  • SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    Looking at your previous map... it was simplistic, but I liked it better, simply because no US states existed.

    Your massive Soviet Union, United Arab Republic (presumably), Yugoslavia, and Mexico are nice- but I have a feeling they're all taking far more than they can chew (Soviets w/ Poland and Afghanistan, Yugoslavia with Albania if not also the Croats and Bosniaks, and the UAR with Sudan if nothing else, and Mexico with the horde of Texan and midwestern settlers).

    As for the unchanged flyover states/provinces of US/Canada... maybe a large indigenous Metis/Mestizo state might work? Something along the lines of a combined Tecumseh's confederacy and the Red River rebellion would be pretty neat. And all the northern territories and Alaska... well, honestly I think the natives would be better off even if they threw their lot in as Russian protectorates (or just anything other than Anglo settlers)

    • Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      I was thinking about it but since Poland is well... Poland, USSR deserves it. Afghanistan would be pretty safer in USSR than on it's own... as we saw in last 4+ decades, the only peaceful time was when it was socialist and USSR protected it, this way no one would even dare to attack it.

      About Yugoslavia: Tito planned to include Bulgaria and Albania, Bulgaria understandably since it's Slavic country and the only one which wasn't in Yugoslavia, but he also wanted Albania and Enver Hoxha was on board for some time so idk, I mainly included every planned but non-realized expansion for every country. Bosnia and Croatia are 2 of 3 most important Yugoslav countries, you can't have Yugoslavia without half of it's members and Bosnia is also the most Yugoslav friendly country, while the other 5 shit on Tito frequently on state level, Bosnia doesn't have a nazi ideology spread that much. There are no bad countries as a whole in Yugoslavia, just bad governments and nazi minority, same as in most of Eastern Europe except like Baltic and Ukraine where it's rare to find non-nazis. I have heritage from 4 Yugoslav countries and almost my whole family is based, wherever I go, people are always friendly, it's just the fascist minority who barks the loudest and then you get the wrong view about countries. We need some serious re-education tho after all of the brainrot in last 30+ years, I definitely agree on that.

      Yeah that could work, idk if ALL the remaining States and Provinces should be one huge country or a few bigger ones.

      • SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml
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        5 months ago

        I have heritage from 4 Yugoslav countries and almost my whole family is based, wherever I go, people are always friendly, it’s just the fascist minority who barks the loudest and then you get the wrong view about countries.

        That's a fair point, as an outsider looking in I'll admit that probably I have the wrong view of Croats and Albanians in particular then.

        My own experiences would probably tend towards such thinking (looking at the noisy fascists with and writing off- not all or close to it, but the majority of various groups) admittedly, coming from an imperial core country (Canada) and a heavily mentally colonized, racial minority family- people may be people wherever they go, but I'd assumed things were worse off (in my own shitpost/take on the Balkans I unified the Orthodox south Slavs, and cut off bits of most of Croatia to give to Slovenia, Bosnia, and Yugoslavia in comparison- a far less optimistic, more mean-spirited and "containing the Croats" sort of take)- it's a pleasant eye-opener hearing how things are on the ground there.

        • Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml
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          5 months ago

          Idk about Albanians, I haven't been there, but all of people of Yugoslavia are super friendly. As for Croatia, I went on vacation multiple times and we have cousins living there(they're not from Croatia, just living there) and I also have friends from Zagreb and Tito himself was half-Croat. It's just that the situation is same as in other countries in Yugoslavia, i.e. rehabilitation of nazi collaborators ustashe, same as chetniks in Serbia, church, reactionary westoid puppet government etc etc.

          Btw I have heritage from Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Macedonia.

  • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    One way or another the states and providences need to go back to indigenous federations. What is northern Africa/the Arabian peninsula? Good to see a unified Ireland and Korea. What about the DR and Hati tho?

    • Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      Yes, all the states could be united in Indigenous federation, North Africa and Middle East are united into Arab Union. Should DR and Haiti unite or expand borders?

      • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        I would think unite. My hospital historical (lolwtf?) knowledge is a bit fuzzy, but I think it would be in keeping with rectifying historical injustices.