Kindasorta? I don't see a final showdown that results in a monopolar world dominated by a communist block being able to shift the course of history like soviet ww3 victory would have. China is too hands off to do anything like that even if they had a final victory. I think the soviets would have actually put their dominant position to practical use and started exporting revolution if NATO was defanged/destroyed first.
We are going to win...eventually...and whatever state the world is in is going to be infinitely worse than if it kicked off in the late 60s-early 80s at the latest, they would have done something about climate change as soon as it was figured out unless a climate Lysenko happened.
Pessimistic much? maybe. I just don't see the victory being seeded rn as anything more than bittersweet. The USSR could have led the way into a fresh millennium without meaningfully powerful opposition.
Unless I'm wrong and China is just hiding power levels until the time is right.
I don't think it matters what China wants or thinks right now. The material conditions will force it to export revolution or give up communism, when they start their plan to socialise the economy they will either realise that for it to work there needs to be a concerted effort to create worldwide socialism or they will give up on it. I don't believe they'll give up on it, so the only conclusion I can draw is that they will take a turn in that direction.
I don't think exporting the revolution was purely ideological for the soviets either, it was driven by the material conditions of either being defeated slowly with socialism in one country or fighting.
True thoughts on that, China is either going to need to massively increase food production or establish a base of ideologically aligned food exporters.
Precisely. So, the conditions are going to push them to it whether they want it or not.
This contradiction will resolve itself either in accepting they need to export revolution or by liberalising. Or by doing both simultaneously in some fucked up distorted mess if leadership is bad and indecisive.
I was thinking more like the way the soviets simultaneously supported other liberation projects while at the same time increasingly watering themselves down. If the issue isn't clearly recognised for what it is I think it's pretty easy that different elements of the state could pull in different directions. That's where decisive leadership is needed to prevent it.
Kindasorta? I don't see a final showdown that results in a monopolar world dominated by a communist block being able to shift the course of history like soviet ww3 victory would have. China is too hands off to do anything like that even if they had a final victory. I think the soviets would have actually put their dominant position to practical use and started exporting revolution if NATO was defanged/destroyed first.
We are going to win...eventually...and whatever state the world is in is going to be infinitely worse than if it kicked off in the late 60s-early 80s at the latest, they would have done something about climate change as soon as it was figured out unless a climate Lysenko happened.
Pessimistic much? maybe. I just don't see the victory being seeded rn as anything more than bittersweet. The USSR could have led the way into a fresh millennium without meaningfully powerful opposition.
Unless I'm wrong and China is just hiding power levels until the time is right.
I don't think it matters what China wants or thinks right now. The material conditions will force it to export revolution or give up communism, when they start their plan to socialise the economy they will either realise that for it to work there needs to be a concerted effort to create worldwide socialism or they will give up on it. I don't believe they'll give up on it, so the only conclusion I can draw is that they will take a turn in that direction.
I don't think exporting the revolution was purely ideological for the soviets either, it was driven by the material conditions of either being defeated slowly with socialism in one country or fighting.
True thoughts on that, China is either going to need to massively increase food production or establish a base of ideologically aligned food exporters.
Precisely. So, the conditions are going to push them to it whether they want it or not.
This contradiction will resolve itself either in accepting they need to export revolution or by liberalising. Or by doing both simultaneously in some fucked up distorted mess if leadership is bad and indecisive.
God damn it, China exporting liberalism was NOT on my horizon but now I have to be scared about it.
Thanks, I hate it
I was thinking more like the way the soviets simultaneously supported other liberation projects while at the same time increasingly watering themselves down. If the issue isn't clearly recognised for what it is I think it's pretty easy that different elements of the state could pull in different directions. That's where decisive leadership is needed to prevent it.