Call me the most gullible leftist, but what I'm seeing is not the work of feds. What I see is immense growth of a space left (deliberately) unorganized, this growth going to the heads of some internet janitors (no hate, janitors are important) some of who, in their hubris decided to represent a community that is so much larger than them and without a mandate or even consent from that community to do so. Not only was that representation itself inadequate, it was performed in a hostile medium, without preparation or skill, aimlessly for self-aggrandizement and maybe the rationalized ulterior motive of attracting further growth to the space.
What followed was predictable, no feds needed. Bad optics, backlash from a community that felt mal-represented and betrayed, no structure to channel discontent into action, immense shame all around - lockdown of the sub because they couldn't handle the voice of the people asking for their resignation - and the people subsequently jumping into the first alternative space that sprung up immediately. After all, the only way to get rid of mods on reddit is forming a new sub.
Now, if I were a fed I'd be laughing for sure. But there'd be no need to involve myself with that whole thing at all. And if I were to involve myself with this shitshow, I certainly wouldn't associate my op with cartoonishly unpopular themes like banking. Much more likely, in my humble, gullible opinion, this would have shaken out more or less the same, no matter how exactly the new sub was named, or by who: There'll always be a liberal drift in radical spaces as more people join, unless that drift is actively counter-steered. Ideologically, antiwork has become incoherent long ago, this whole event just offered the possibility for less radical segments of the community to opportunistically split off into a more liberal incantation they, in their liberality, perceive as more pragmatic, more possible to actualize. Feds didn't wreck the place, the projected gaze of Capital in the minds of liberals who just want better working conditions, not a radical struggle - melted into air all that is solid once again. This is how movements are co-opted and splintered, not from the outside but from within. Entropy confronting internal non-adaptive disorganization; the melting gaze of Capital, is all it takes.
No, this whole thing simply broke under its own weight. And I'll go further and say that this was good. If there ever was a 'movement' behind r/antiwork - it's still out there, finally liberated from a mal-adaptive space, that could never hope to contain it in the first place because it wouldn't dare dream of organizing it ever. The discontent is still the same and if consciousness was raised through r/antiwork, it has further been raised through its fall and there is still a world to win. For some baby leftists out there, this was probably their first big L - and if we can show them how to grow from it, this doesn't have to be a bad thing in the grand scheme of things.
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Call me the most gullible leftist, but what I'm seeing is not the work of feds. What I see is immense growth of a space left (deliberately) unorganized, this growth going to the heads of some internet janitors (no hate, janitors are important) some of who, in their hubris decided to represent a community that is so much larger than them and without a mandate or even consent from that community to do so. Not only was that representation itself inadequate, it was performed in a hostile medium, without preparation or skill, aimlessly for self-aggrandizement and maybe the rationalized ulterior motive of attracting further growth to the space.
What followed was predictable, no feds needed. Bad optics, backlash from a community that felt mal-represented and betrayed, no structure to channel discontent into action, immense shame all around - lockdown of the sub because they couldn't handle the voice of the people asking for their resignation - and the people subsequently jumping into the first alternative space that sprung up immediately. After all, the only way to get rid of mods on reddit is forming a new sub.
Now, if I were a fed I'd be laughing for sure. But there'd be no need to involve myself with that whole thing at all. And if I were to involve myself with this shitshow, I certainly wouldn't associate my op with cartoonishly unpopular themes like banking. Much more likely, in my humble, gullible opinion, this would have shaken out more or less the same, no matter how exactly the new sub was named, or by who: There'll always be a liberal drift in radical spaces as more people join, unless that drift is actively counter-steered. Ideologically, antiwork has become incoherent long ago, this whole event just offered the possibility for less radical segments of the community to opportunistically split off into a more liberal incantation they, in their liberality, perceive as more pragmatic, more possible to actualize. Feds didn't wreck the place, the projected gaze of Capital in the minds of liberals who just want better working conditions, not a radical struggle - melted into air all that is solid once again. This is how movements are co-opted and splintered, not from the outside but from within. Entropy confronting internal non-adaptive disorganization; the melting gaze of Capital, is all it takes.
No, this whole thing simply broke under its own weight. And I'll go further and say that this was good. If there ever was a 'movement' behind r/antiwork - it's still out there, finally liberated from a mal-adaptive space, that could never hope to contain it in the first place because it wouldn't dare dream of organizing it ever. The discontent is still the same and if consciousness was raised through r/antiwork, it has further been raised through its fall and there is still a world to win. For some baby leftists out there, this was probably their first big L - and if we can show them how to grow from it, this doesn't have to be a bad thing in the grand scheme of things.
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pretty sure it was just a mild attack from the corporate media
The "work reform" sub is probably just a grift. They probably have a completely inane monetization scheme