The church questline was the greatest most HARD CORE thing I have ever seen in a video g*me.
Also communism, lots of communism. Unfortunately also fascism, moralism, humanism and liberalism :ooooooooooooooh:
It's definitely a 10/10 masterpiece, though I wouldn't include it in my personal GOAT like New Vegas or Dragon Age Origins because it got too realistically depressing at times.
NO NATION BUT TRANCE NATION - NO WAR BUT CLASS WAR
Oh wow I missed that entirely in my playthrough. I was always wondering just how corrupt can a guy that never leaves a shipping container really be? His whole life is dedicated to the shipping terminal. Dude’s not going to cross the dockworkers or leave the community.
Evrart spoilers
If you needle Evrart enough he will drop his cheerful facade and talk about how fiercely he hates the bourgeoisie, how they cause nothing but poverty, and how he doesn't believe fighting them should require any sort of moral standards. He's willing to do anything to fuck the ruling class over.
dope
Do you by chance have a link to where I could read the dialogue or watch a youtube video of it? Or even a guide on how to get to this in game? I'm really curious
Actually I asked someone who's played it more than I have and this is what they told me.
There's a hidden task where you can act as a third-party between Joyce and Evrart. Talk to them back and forth and carry messages between then. He eventually lays out why he hates the wealthy so much.
Thanks! More the reason to play again. Joyce is a well written character but I hate her and I couldn't bring myself to help her on my first playthrough.
I've read reviews written by obvious liberals who thought Joyce was supposed to be admirable lmao
Yeah the thing about disco elysium is that its sort of a left wing dog whistle. If your a communist the game seems very obviously communist but if you're not it seems politically ambiguous, at least based on what I've read from discussions on it.
I can't seem to remember the exact circumstances that lead to Evrart being honest with you. I do remember that if you outright call yourself an ultraliberal to him, he will instantly drop the pleasantries and say "get the fuck out" and that he doesn't believe you. When you first meet him, he also outlines the entire plan he has for the union to take over, and says he will "fuck Wild Pines." Your Perception will have a dialogue where it's mentioned Evrart doesn't swear often, suggesting he really does hate the bourgeoisie.
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i'm not sure if i just got him to that point or a preceding point, but i think i just had a whole chat with him where he knows about the drugs, justifies the corruption as funding the union cause by any means necessary, and has already started back-channelling all the companies who ship with Wild Pines to have new contracts ready for when the dock is completely worker-owned.
He also definitely said "Fuck Wild Pines"
I got some of that but not quite your take, but your take makes sense. The parts Evan told me where so that I thought maybe he just adapts to what I want to hear, but with the other bits you lot posted he seems to be much more antagonistic and class conscious than I thought.
Yeah, the thing about Evrart is
He's a true believer, but he's become so slimy no one can belive him.
Now his brother is a fucking piece of work though.
Big spoiler
Did you discover Evrart's twin brother?
I did not.
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During the conversation with the deserter, he can mention that Evrart has a twin brother, Edgar, who's the real mastermind behind the whole thing. They switch places from time to time and the only way to tell which one you're interacting with is by picking up on slight differences in his portrait.
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Edgar doesn't have the lazy eye? and they nominate each other and step down before the term ends so they can keep being re-elected?