I didn't ask for your toxicity either. If you're going to get this worked up about criticism of a philosopher's fanbase I think that says more about you than it does about me.
Came here to say this. Not a particularly big fan of his (though I enjoyed Beyond Good and Evil tremendously), but Nietzsche was manifestly not a Nazi himself. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with his work could tell you that he would have hated them. It's bizarre that people are freaking out at you so hard over this point.
I don't know what you think you're accomplishing with this but I can tell you that it sure as hell isn't working. Like cool, I'm going to lash out with ableism over criticism of my favorite person. That'll convince em.
I would place Nietzsche in a class with Julius Evola and Ernst Jünger (a real life "übermench" if there ever was one) - purestrain "reactionaries" who thought actual fascists were too cringe and infected by modernity and "commoners", and wanted to go back to the Bronze Age more or less.
All of that would be a great argument if that's what this conversation was about. I said that Freddy Nazi had a following of fascists and then you blew up about how "no he's not a bad guy!!" Shit, I never said he was bad.
I fucking loathe the fact you can't make a point about someone without it being interpreted as throwing accusations. It's like when people were calling out Vaush for his pro-pedophile takes and he goes out and says "They're calling me a pedophile" which as we later found out was because he actually was and was just getting defensive over it. He has a Nazi following, that's all I was saying. Why do you have to make that such a big deal?
I always pronounced Nietzsche as Nazi because of the kind of people who love his ideas.
What Nietzsche have you read?
None. I don't have to read his work to know that Nazis love him.
I did watch a documentary about him and it didn't exactly paint a good picture.
Thanks for not letting that stop you share your opinion, we are indebted.
I haven’t read any Plato but I still know Diogenes owned him
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I didn't ask for your toxicity either. If you're going to get this worked up about criticism of a philosopher's fanbase I think that says more about you than it does about me.
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Came here to say this. Not a particularly big fan of his (though I enjoyed Beyond Good and Evil tremendously), but Nietzsche was manifestly not a Nazi himself. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with his work could tell you that he would have hated them. It's bizarre that people are freaking out at you so hard over this point.
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I don't know what you think you're accomplishing with this but I can tell you that it sure as hell isn't working. Like cool, I'm going to lash out with ableism over criticism of my favorite person. That'll convince em.
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I would place Nietzsche in a class with Julius Evola and Ernst Jünger (a real life "übermench" if there ever was one) - purestrain "reactionaries" who thought actual fascists were too cringe and infected by modernity and "commoners", and wanted to go back to the Bronze Age more or less.
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All of that would be a great argument if that's what this conversation was about. I said that Freddy Nazi had a following of fascists and then you blew up about how "no he's not a bad guy!!" Shit, I never said he was bad.
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I fucking loathe the fact you can't make a point about someone without it being interpreted as throwing accusations. It's like when people were calling out Vaush for his pro-pedophile takes and he goes out and says "They're calling me a pedophile" which as we later found out was because he actually was and was just getting defensive over it. He has a Nazi following, that's all I was saying. Why do you have to make that such a big deal?
Holy shit go outside
never.
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