yeah those critiques have merit. american teachers are overwhelmingly white (72%) and serve as foot soldier level cops for the school to prison pipeline. teaching is a notoriously racist profession in the US partly responsible for some of the divergent outcomes between white and nonwhite students. almost no nonwhite kids respect their white teachers.
reforming public education in the US would mean hiring demographically relevant teachers for segregated schools, which would also vastly reduce the amount of white teachers in the country.
In most cases the teachers are hamstrung to teach an inherently liberal and white supremecist curriculum. If the curriculum were not just absolute corporate manifest destiny brainwashing it would not only be easier to fix the demographic representation of teachers, but also change the school to prison pipeline.
there's what teachers are required to do and what teachers choose to do. i am a product of US public schools and I can tell you that there's no mandate anywhere to ban students from researching the tulsa race riots or other racial massacres anywhere in the US. white teachers just don't want to hear about it, which is why it was banned at my school.
lol what makes you think if the guardrails were taken off that whites would not teach a glorified version of their own history? pointing to a white institution tying the hands of white people is fallacious because the institution also serves the people, not just the other way around.
What I'm saying is that forcing teachers to teach a white-focused curriculum leads primarily to only white teachers staying in the profession. Do you think it would be any better to have a bunch of PoC teachers teaching white history, or getting fired for teaching something anticolonial?
That's a nationwide stat, but no way that number is that high in urban schools. In the districts with majority non-white students, the demographics of teachers are much closer to the student population. Administrators on the other hand..
US partly responsible for some of the divergent outcomes between white and nonwhite students.
I'm sure there's no economic or structural factors that contribute to this.
This is wrong too. Chicago Public schools is 90% nonwhite. CPS is exactly 50% white teachers, 50% other. Even in extremely segregated urban districts white teachers predominate.
The white teachers in more diverse areas are more often than not still incredibly racist and leave a lasting impact.
Including when kids see them have much higher positions than the nonwhite teachers, like seniority and administration. Black teachers answering to white teachers with seniority and a white principal.
You are 100% correct. In chicago's fringest northwest and south neighborhoods, the stereotype household is white woman teacher married to white man cop.
It’s a right wing talking point in that it’s used to justify a lack of commensurate compensation and to delegitimize unions
But also :yea:
One of my first jobs was a long term sub position for a teacher who just handed out packets and played on Facebook all day. Apparently she used to be real involved and passionate with various committees in the district and burnt the fuck out after her divorce coupled with a bunch of initiatives losing funding at the same time.
Yeah I’ve heard a lot of stories like that, teachers who actually try their damndest to actually dedicate themselves to the kids but then after a could years of dealing with giant classrooms where a lot of the kids have mental health issues that are hard enough to deal with on a one on one setting, and just shitty funding and facilities. After a while they just go fuck it and have the kids watch some YouTube videos while they fuck off. It makes them feel like shit but honestly they just at the point they just can’t muster the will to care.
the vast majority of the population are forced to attend charters paid for mostly (but not entirely, muh subsidy capture) by vouchers. the elite won't touch voucher schools with a dead dog's dick and send their children to actual private schools that don't take vouchers. a small minority of state bureaucrats in the military and civil service are allowed the luxury of real public education (mostly to keep them from couping the government)
Weaponizing a pandemic to destroy public education. Look to Chile's system if you want to see how it will look in 5 years.
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yeah those critiques have merit. american teachers are overwhelmingly white (72%) and serve as foot soldier level cops for the school to prison pipeline. teaching is a notoriously racist profession in the US partly responsible for some of the divergent outcomes between white and nonwhite students. almost no nonwhite kids respect their white teachers.
reforming public education in the US would mean hiring demographically relevant teachers for segregated schools, which would also vastly reduce the amount of white teachers in the country.
In most cases the teachers are hamstrung to teach an inherently liberal and white supremecist curriculum. If the curriculum were not just absolute corporate manifest destiny brainwashing it would not only be easier to fix the demographic representation of teachers, but also change the school to prison pipeline.
there's what teachers are required to do and what teachers choose to do. i am a product of US public schools and I can tell you that there's no mandate anywhere to ban students from researching the tulsa race riots or other racial massacres anywhere in the US. white teachers just don't want to hear about it, which is why it was banned at my school.
Yeah,banning stuff is a different story. I was talking specifically about teaching to the curriculum, which is itself white colonial focused
lol what makes you think if the guardrails were taken off that whites would not teach a glorified version of their own history? pointing to a white institution tying the hands of white people is fallacious because the institution also serves the people, not just the other way around.
What I'm saying is that forcing teachers to teach a white-focused curriculum leads primarily to only white teachers staying in the profession. Do you think it would be any better to have a bunch of PoC teachers teaching white history, or getting fired for teaching something anticolonial?
That's a nationwide stat, but no way that number is that high in urban schools. In the districts with majority non-white students, the demographics of teachers are much closer to the student population. Administrators on the other hand..
I'm sure there's no economic or structural factors that contribute to this.
This is wrong too. Chicago Public schools is 90% nonwhite. CPS is exactly 50% white teachers, 50% other. Even in extremely segregated urban districts white teachers predominate.
The white teachers in more diverse areas are more often than not still incredibly racist and leave a lasting impact.
Including when kids see them have much higher positions than the nonwhite teachers, like seniority and administration. Black teachers answering to white teachers with seniority and a white principal.
You are 100% correct. In chicago's fringest northwest and south neighborhoods, the stereotype household is white woman teacher married to white man cop.
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It’s a right wing talking point in that it’s used to justify a lack of commensurate compensation and to delegitimize unions
But also :yea:
One of my first jobs was a long term sub position for a teacher who just handed out packets and played on Facebook all day. Apparently she used to be real involved and passionate with various committees in the district and burnt the fuck out after her divorce coupled with a bunch of initiatives losing funding at the same time.
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Yeah I’ve heard a lot of stories like that, teachers who actually try their damndest to actually dedicate themselves to the kids but then after a could years of dealing with giant classrooms where a lot of the kids have mental health issues that are hard enough to deal with on a one on one setting, and just shitty funding and facilities. After a while they just go fuck it and have the kids watch some YouTube videos while they fuck off. It makes them feel like shit but honestly they just at the point they just can’t muster the will to care.
Are they’re really any of those in the US?
online communities, I reckon. :deng-cowboy:
what is it like in Chile?
the vast majority of the population are forced to attend charters paid for mostly (but not entirely, muh subsidy capture) by vouchers. the elite won't touch voucher schools with a dead dog's dick and send their children to actual private schools that don't take vouchers. a small minority of state bureaucrats in the military and civil service are allowed the luxury of real public education (mostly to keep them from couping the government)