This is an overview of the recent argument between InfraHaz and Q. Anthony Omene on the Canadian trucker's "Freedom Convoy". My goal is to highlight the differing leftist perspectives on this issue. Both are highly educated on Marx and Lenin and understanding how they come to such differing conclusions is important if we are to correctly analyze current events through a leftist view.
TLDR: Haz doesn't know shit about shit and gets thoroughly trounced on every issue when challenged by someone who can combat his "supposed knowledge" of Marx and Engels.
It started with Haz's tweet on 5th Feb:
This began a heated discussion online about the nature of the Trucker protests.
An "informal" rebuttal was posted by Yara Shoufani, a leftist Palestinian-Canadian activist. It consisted of a couple screenshots from an article originally titled: "Backers of 'Freedom Convoy' Cite Overcoming Communism in Their Support of Canadian Truckers" that claimed "Thousands of Canadian truckers, along with other supporters, arrived in Ottawa last month to protest against COVID-19 mandates enforced by the country's liberal leader, Justin Trudeau, and the Communist Party of Canada."
She followed that up with a couple tweets summarizing her view:
You can follow her twitter to read more of her thoughts or read the following Passage article for a more "formal" rebuttal - The Trucker Convoy Is Not A Workers’ Revolt. This article comes up later as it was tweeted out by Q and merged into the argument between him and Haz.
Anyway, Haz responded to her tweets:
This drew Q into the conversation:
Haz then officially started the "debate":
Q:
Haz:
The article referenced here is the Passage article mentioned above. It claimed "The trucker convoy is a “revolt” of petit-bourgeoisie owner-operators, financially backed by wealthy right-wing grifters — not the vast majority of exploited trucking workers."
To which Haz had responded earlier:
Uber drivers, commonly known as petite-bourgeois 'owner operators'
Q:
Haz:
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I'm glad you put this together.
Saying that, I regret reading it.
This Haz guy obviously sucks, he has no clue what he's talking about,and no clue what's going on in the protest.
The fact that this convoy is fucking funded by rich conservatives hasn't even been mentioned -- and that really lends a big question mark around the entire premise that this is even a grassroots movement at all.
Which it isn't, as far as I can tell.
It is a great show of the working class NEEDING an outlet to tell about worsening conditions. And it is the right that is providing this artificial revolt as a platform. I will say it again, this is how the right gets the working class on their side, and this is how the shitty, bourgeois "left" in Canada loses them.
Yeah, I see Haz being brought up as someone who knows a lot of Marxist theory pretty often and he can be intimidating for others who don't know as much. So seeing him show his ass in an argument with Q. multiple times is necessary.
Damn, you should be paid for suffering through Twitter's awful UI to lay out this argument.
To continue the analogy, Haz thinks the child throwing a temper tantrum is a sign of the socialist revolution.
Nah, it’s very dumb argument that they are workers - so what, they are still throwing temper tantrum unrelated to their own exploitation, vaccine mandates literally won’t change one iota of that exploitation
so the question isn't "is Haz wrong", it's "what happened to this guy to make him that way?"
like do you need to debate what Lenin said about whatever peasants in order determine whether or not the chuds carrying Nazi flags blockading a city with their $300k trucks for two weeks straight are the vanguard for the workers' revolution or just more pawns in the intercine battles of slightly differing factions of libs?
:DaBiden:
It's important I swear. I'm def not just procrastinating on my studies.
Yeah, that's Haz. It's quite illuminating documenting his positions change and morph when he's confronted by someone who's also read Marx and Lenin. It's important to be able to debunk their misunderstandings of leftist theory and how it applies to our present conditions.
Edit - Goddamit I lost the Part Two I was working on. :guts-rage:
PART THREE:
Q:
Haz:
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Haz:
Do you think the IMF elites are sympathetic to these truckers?
Q:
He links to a video of a white supremacist convoy organizer talking about The Great Replacement.
Haz:
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Haz:
Q:
Tamara Lich, Benjamin Dicher, Chris Barber, Patrick King (from the video), and James Bauder
Haz:
Q:
I have other things to do besides use you as a footstool, shortstop.
Haz:
That's where it ends for the moment. Given that it's devolved into personal insults, it doesn't look like we'll get any more actual arguments. In the end, by engaging with Patriotic Socialist InfraHaz deeply in the topic, we saw Q. expose him as someone who can talk big but doesn't actually know shit. Don't be intimidated by their supposed "citing" of Marx and Lenin. Eventually, they'll revert to talking about "globalists" and making shit up.
PART TWO
Haz:
Regarding vanguardism, it's not relevant. Lenin viewed the small peasant as the basis for democratic revolution, which is why he theorized the 'democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and peasantry.' Mensheviks (like yourself) rather believed the proletariat must ally with The big city liberal bourgeoisie (Trudeau and Canadian shitlibs) because they were more 'progressive.' Lenin even wrote about democratic elements among the black hundreds, and attacked mensheviks for allowing with liberal Cadets against the 'black hundred threat.'
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Haz:
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Haz:
This neglects the middle peasant, who was caught between the rural proletariat and 'wealthy rural bourgeoisie,' who Lenin vaguely refers to after as the democratic petty bourgeoisie. You lack understanding of dialectics, which Lenin was basing his analysis off: Not discrete boxes or categories, but tendencies and oscillations is what defined the peasantry. And Lenin SAID as much! Yes, there was a 'bourgeois' element that, at the tail end (statistically) represented a minority of the peasants. This was the concretion of one of the major tendencies.
Yet the majority were not one extreme or the other, but caught in between the antagonistic movement. Trotsky (like yourself) later viewed only the poorest of the rural proletariat as allies. Lenin and Stalin banked on the middle peasant instead. That's why Trotsky rejected lenins theory of democratic dictatorship of proletariat and peasantry. He did not accept any class independence of the peasants to be recognized. He despised the peasants like you despise the truckers.
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Haz:
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Haz:
Q responded with an image of a weed pipe with the words "Works Cited:" on top, implying Haz is high.
Haz:
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I'll even give you a headstart https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=2310029101
(Hint: higher fleet profitability and stagnant/decreasing company driver wages are directly related)
Haz:
Q retweeted the following:
Haz:
Q:
The Yellow Vests and Wexiters aren’t “serfs” by any definition, now you’re talking just to talk lmao
Haz: