• WhatsonAir [comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    Putin didn't destroy ISIS in Syria.

    That was a success of a broad coalition and the main force were the people living there on the ground, often organized by Peschmerga / YPJ / YPG / etc.

    I know it is a meme, still a different framing would be good to strengthen our comrades in Rojava and the rest of Syria.

    • darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml
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      8 months ago

      WTF. Rojava is a US proxy, same as ISIS just they can admit to using Rojava while they have to deny helping ISIS.

      Assad helped destroy ISIS and Putin assisted Assad and the Syrian nation. Those anarcho-CIA-ists you mentioned helped leave the country ripe for ISIS to exist and be a problem in the first place.

      Fuck them. They're no comrades of anyone opposed to US hegemony which is the world proletariat.

      Fucking western leftists, a few shots of aesthetics with nice slogans on posters in English and they go right along with cheering for US proxies while sneering at liberals for doing the same with liberal color revolution movements.

    • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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      8 months ago

      Putin didn't destroy ISIS in Syria

      Correct

      That was a success of a broad coalition

      Partly correct. ISIS has not yet been completely destroyed in Syria, but it has been strategically defeated. And yes, this was not achieved by Russia alone.

      and the main force were the people living there on the ground

      The main force were the Syrian people and their government.

      often organized by Peschmerga / YPJ / YPG / etc.

      False. The main actors leading the resistance to ISIS in Syria are the Syrian government of Bashar al-Asaad as well as its allies in the region. The coalition that defeated ISIS was primarily formed of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) aided by Russia, and Iranian backed and organized militias led by general Soleimani whom the US murdered for his role in defeating ISIS and spoiling their plan for Syria.

      would be good to strengthen our comrades in Rojava

      "Rojava" unfortunately has acted in a very duplicitous manner. They have defended their own territory, yes, but at the same time they have been consistently playing the role of a proxy of the US to keep Syria destabilized and prevent the Syrian government from re-establishing control of its sovereign territory.

      In doing this they have sided with ISIS, which is a proxy of the US and the Zionist entity and which time and time again proves that it is working toward the same regional goals as the US imperialists and the neocolony.

      • WhatsonAir [comrade/them]
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        6 months ago

        In doing this they have sided with ISIS, which is a proxy of the US and the Zionist entity and which time and time again proves that it is working toward the same regional goals as the US imperialists and the neocolony.

        Assad did deliver weapons to the de-facto government of Rojava and thus the YPG. Is Assad an US proxy against himself?

        https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Syrian_civil_war.png

        This shows well the front line that was relevant. The conflict against ISIL was only part of the civil war, for years, so a long time, Assad and allies did focus on controlling parts in the West and doing operations against rebel forces, including some parts of Islamist forces. The operations in the east were at a latter point. However I do understand that your read of the situation is basically the Hisbollah position. Not a lot to discuss between us.

    • SadArtemis🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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      8 months ago

      Rojava are the ones working with the US and ISIS to literally starve out Syria (occupying the prime agricultural and oil-producing regions). With that in mind there is no pity in my heart for them, they deserve what they get for working with the great Satan (as an atheist- when Iran calls AmeriKKKa satan, when people from the Caribbean call it Babylon, they are if anything making a massive understatement). With "comrades" like them, who needs enemies?

      • WhatsonAir [comrade/them]
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        6 months ago

        Assad did deliver weapons to AANES, is he a proxy against himself?

        The analysis if actions and operations align and if an entity is a proxy can't stop with labeling something as proxy or not to mean good or bad. Was China delivering weapons in conflicts on the side of US forces during the last 70 years a US proxy? Is ISIL a Turkish proxy? Is Syria and is Hizbollah (and as such Lebanon) just an Iranian proxy? No.

        AANES got its own goals, to say "it is an US proxy" is absolutely reductive. Much of what happens there is cause of the relations they are in, even without any US influence. The Syrian Civil war is very complex and you actually need to parse through 10-15 years of material to get a grasp of it. Russia did lobby for the UNO to include Rojava as partner in talks related to Syrian peace talks, Russia has an office of Rojava in Moscow.

        AANES is in conflict with Turkey. AANES is in need of partners and it enjoys high support within the territories it controls. It is a typical thing to neglect Kurdish, Jesidic, Arabic struggles. Kurdish women who did actually hold talks in my city and conferences, women who fought, who tell you about Jineologie and about emancipatory societies are labeled as "pathetic Western leftists" here. Anti-Imperialism can be emancipatory and progressive.

        https://rojavainformationcenter.org/2023/12/aanes-social-contract-2023-edition/

        Bombings by Turkey make it more likely for ISIL prisoners to escape. Is Turkey furthering ISIL?

        https://npasyria.com/en/110254/