I dunno if such kinds of posts are allowed here on Hexbear, but, is it too bad to unironically say the West/USA/NATO "National Socialist (Nazi)" / Fascist while arguing with NATOists/NAFOists/Liberals online? Because by seeing the amount of stuff NATOists say online, I really can't differ their discourse from NS discourse, except maybe by just replacing Germany by the West but still with the same speech about ethnic cleasing and genocide against non-Westerners, against Natives, against Leftists, against Jews of Conscience (Anti-Zionist Jews), against ppl from Third World Countries / Global South Countries, against Western political dissidents, against colonized nations etc.

Sorry for saying "National Socialist" and "NS", I am mostly saying so for do not trigger some users here who mind find the word "Nazi" just too intense/offensive.

  • davel [he/him]
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    You had a seven-layer deep thread with yourself in that post. What do you think that can accomplish? Libs aren’t going to read it, and even if they did, it’s not going to change their minds.

    Tangentially, did you create r/Abzu/, r/Abzunian, and r/Abzunianism/ on Reddit last month, and then abandon them and recreate them on lemmy.ml just now, along with five other new comms?

    I would like to suggest that you get familiar with the Lemmy community and its culture before venturing forth on a one-person Trotskyite entyrist project across the three left-compatible Lemmy instances.

    Like, you’ve been here for a day and you’ve already pushed for people to create a separate lefty Lemmy instance, when you hardly know a thing about the ones that already exist.

    • davel [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      This user deleted their hexbear account, their lemmy account got banned (not by me), and now they’re posting from their lemmygrad account. Their lemmygrad account was banned on hexbear as well.

      • davel [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        They just deleted their lemmygrad account as well, after getting called out over there: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3551440

        • thirtymilliondeadfish [she/her]
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          5 months ago

          Something similar I realized about Lemmygrad and Hexbear, mainly because Hexbear literally conditionate the users into their own communities (like not creating communities), and also perma banning people for “spam” just due posting more than 1 post in a comm per day… Without mention how much Hexbear allows neoliberal identity politics on their instance, and how much they reject the idea of making a United Front instance (the hypothetical Lemmyleft) against the Lemmy-world menance…

          loool good riddance

          • davel [he/him]
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            5 months ago

            They have Mastodon accounts as well, which have been permabanned on lemmy.ml:

            • https://mastodon.social/@SukkalofAbzu1
            • https://mastodon.social/@Dumuabzu
            • davel [he/him]
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              5 months ago

              Holy shit he went to town on me with that account, but since I’d blocked him I didn’t know he was still going off. Did he make that account just to rant at little ol’ me and @simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml?
              https://mastodon.social/@Dumuabzu/with_replies

              • davel [he/him]
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                5 months ago

                Aww they deleted all 22 of them now all-my-apes-gone I guess they recycle the account for guerilla warfare attacks.

  • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]M
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    5 months ago

    you’re not gonna offend anyone on hexbear by calling nato nazis. they are nazis. calling them “national socialists” propagates the lie that nazis are anything like socialists

    • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]M
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      5 months ago

      but yeah, you were justified. you might wanna elaborate more. maybe talk abt how many of nato’s first high command were actual nazi officers, nato’s stay-behind forces w operation gladio, euromaidan, etc

  • TimeTravel_0
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    5 months ago

    you aren't wrong in identifying them as being fascist, but good luck getting a lib to take you seriously after you drop that bomb. you gotta warm them up to it with examples of them being fascist and let them come to that conclusion themselves because just starting an argument with the declaration that "everything you think you know about this is wrong" is not going to land well with a stranger.