I don't know, all the leftists around here have had good takes and I've even heard libs (irl) say that it is NATOs fault. The big orgs are all shit of course, but the small local ones teend to be better, as well as a lot of people, more than I thought.
Yeah the internet has been totally astroturfed about this. Yes, I've heard more than enough shittakes irl, and the majority of people I've talked to are towing the NATO line. But it's not the plurality you would expect. I've also spoken to a lot of people from the mid-east and South Asia, and almost all of them have expressed the same sentiments as us. They and their neighbors have been brutalised for decades and no one cared. No matter how good the propaganda, they will not forget.
Yeah it's kind of hard to forget NATO countries assisting in the arrest of revolutionaries. And giving the oppressive regime in your country weapons (including nukes) used to fight a 25+ year border war against "communism" though proxy Israel.
It was the same with 2014, people here have a good amount of anti-americanism and anti-war believes in them. People still remember the second world war here. It's not everyone of course, but some.
I don't know, all the leftists around here have had good takes and I've even heard libs (irl) say that it is NATOs fault. The big orgs are all shit of course, but the small local ones teend to be better, as well as a lot of people, more than I thought.
Yeah the internet has been totally astroturfed about this. Yes, I've heard more than enough shittakes irl, and the majority of people I've talked to are towing the NATO line. But it's not the plurality you would expect. I've also spoken to a lot of people from the mid-east and South Asia, and almost all of them have expressed the same sentiments as us. They and their neighbors have been brutalised for decades and no one cared. No matter how good the propaganda, they will not forget.
Yeah it's kind of hard to forget NATO countries assisting in the arrest of revolutionaries. And giving the oppressive regime in your country weapons (including nukes) used to fight a 25+ year border war against "communism" though proxy Israel.
I don't believe this. What kind of regular ol' lib thinks that?
It was the same with 2014, people here have a good amount of anti-americanism and anti-war believes in them. People still remember the second world war here. It's not everyone of course, but some.