That's why I use y'all, the ultimate gender neutral 2nd person plural. Given that English isn't my native language, it confuses the hell out of random Americans i meet.
Ultimately, I see how folks could be bothered by it so I don't use it. However, I've been working on a bloomer sincerepost for here and in theory it hinges on the term "the good guys" and relies on the specific idiomatic use of that term in English. The "good guys" being the heroes of the story who have the correct intentions and motivations (long story short, us commies are "the good guys" and we should be proud of that). However, I consider it a gendered term so I don't want to use it. I've thought of saying "the good people" but that has waaay more religious culty vibes so I don't want to use that either. So I've just kinda sat on the idea. Linguistic suggestions welcome.
One day, I think this. I say that not only the concept of gender roles are a social construct, but the very idea of "man" and "woman", the "biological" stuff, is completely influenced by those constructs, and then go on to draw a dialectical materialist framing of gender.
The next day, I have to pick between the tiled room with urinals, and the tiled room without, and cry.
guys doesn't feel gendered anymore
like barely a shade depending on context
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the main reason to ban using terms like guys and dudes is because it forces people to get creative with their group nouns.
Anything that increases the likelihood of someone saying "me hearties" is a good thing
It's also cute :)
That's why I use y'all, the ultimate gender neutral 2nd person plural. Given that English isn't my native language, it confuses the hell out of random Americans i meet.
yes but these decisions were made by a HR manager and those are the stupidest people on earth
It bothers me
this is how I use it and most people seem to get it :shrug-outta-hecks:
Ultimately, I see how folks could be bothered by it so I don't use it. However, I've been working on a bloomer sincerepost for here and in theory it hinges on the term "the good guys" and relies on the specific idiomatic use of that term in English. The "good guys" being the heroes of the story who have the correct intentions and motivations (long story short, us commies are "the good guys" and we should be proud of that). However, I consider it a gendered term so I don't want to use it. I've thought of saying "the good people" but that has waaay more religious culty vibes so I don't want to use that either. So I've just kinda sat on the idea. Linguistic suggestions welcome.
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Language is a social construct. "Guys" being gendered or not is entirely subjective.
very true, just saying for me
One day, I think this. I say that not only the concept of gender roles are a social construct, but the very idea of "man" and "woman", the "biological" stuff, is completely influenced by those constructs, and then go on to draw a dialectical materialist framing of gender.
The next day, I have to pick between the tiled room with urinals, and the tiled room without, and cry.
I always use guys for mixed groups. Am I being problematic? Fuck!