To be fair, "fiery" is not exactly a good description of the boring-ass speeches these geriatric Dem politicians give.
One side wants to give you affordable healthcare and housing, one side wants to quit NATO and suck off billionaires...
Enlightened Centrists: BoTh SiDeS!!!
in this case its probably so they can focus on trying to kill china instead, im not getting my hopes up.
Maybe, but it seems unlikely they would essentially dissolve NATO to do that. If they're looking to pick a fight, they'll want to find as many meat shields as they can first.
Agreed, they will probably simply pull out from Ukraine if they ever need to focus their resources elsewhere. Being able to get NATO and ukranians to die for them instead of alarming their own citizens with the reality of war is way too convenient.
One side doesn't give you healthcare, the other side doesn't give healthcare.
Vote blue btw
One side wants to give you affordable healthcare and housing
Oh, which side is that?
one side wants to quit NATO
Critical support to whichever side this is, especially if the “other” “side” thinks NATO is anything more than a cartel of the most monstrous terrorists on the planet.
No side wants to give you affordable healthcare and housing. If they say they want to do it, but then do absolutely nothing in that general direction, they don't want to do it.
how is progress on your healthcare?
anything good in the last couple of decades?
Where are all these moron libs saying this type of stupid shit coming from these days?
I think sometimes Lemmy randomly puts a lemmygrad meme on the front page, and these guys just all have complete facial blindness and are illiterate enough that they don't notice the 6 heads of Marxism, or the Lenin picture, or the !memes@lemmygrad.ml and get confused.
Its those damn hexbear brigaders that're brigading lemmy with their upvotes!
Do you have a source? Sounds like something they'd want to keep under wraps
These were all first page results, hope this helps comrade. Try to do your own search next time.
- https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/15/wiki-o15.html
- https://observer.com/2016/10/obama-makes-first-appearance-in-wikileaks-receives-admin-list-from-big-banker/
- https://newrepublic.com/article/137798/important-wikileaks-revelation-isnt-hillary-clinton
- https://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/10/wikileaks-bombshell-emails-show-citigroup-had-major-role-in-shaping-and-staffing-obamas-first-term/
one side wants to quit NATO
Lmao you really believed Trump wants to do that? It's just rhetoric to buddy up with Russia against China like how the US allied with China against the USSR.
He would just be assassinated and replaced for trying to do something anti-imperialist like JFK was for wanting to abolish the CIA, not that Trump would actually go through with it. He's no better than Biden.
One side wants to give you affordable healthcare and housing
Which side is that? All I see is two imperialist pro-genocide parties, where the one currently in power is a zionazi and is bypassing congress to speed up the genocide.
one side wants to quit NATOLmao you really believed Trump wants to do that? It’s just rhetoric to buddy up with Russia against China like how the US allied with China against the USSR.
I believe personally it's him playing the part of tough dealing CEO man (one of his personas and his most popular one TBH) and doing this with the explicit intent of forcing European countries to meet or exceed their NATO funding commitments which they've always gotten a free ride on and that upsets him. It doesn't upset the CIA because they know for instance that the reason they get a free ride is because NATO makes them vassals, NATO means they can be pulled into our wars at our whims and that generates more value for us than making them pay the full share but Trump doesn't understand that, that's too complex for him in terms of reasoning. He thinks you can have your cake and eat it too.
He makes this threat, gets into office, makes it again, says if they want protection they have to pay. From a business-minded man it makes perfect sense. If you don't pay taxes for the fire department they stand by and watch your house burn down, if you don't pay insurance premiums they don't pay out for your treatment when you get cancer. It's all perfectly logical to him and he sees these countries as non-paying riders.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
One side wants to give you affordable healthcare and housing,
Lmao bullshit. Where's it at? Cracker's had four years to do it, but there's mysteriously no money for it after we shipped fucking BILLIONS to Ukraine and Israel!
oh yeah? i hadn't heard about that other side that gives a shit about anything but billionaires. What are they called?
Which side wants to give us Healthcare because dems smoother the idea every time it cones up.
Hillary Clinton literally compared saying you were going to give people Healthcare to promising everybody a pony to give you an idea of how serious they are about that.
