Biden is neoliberal (neocon?) war criminal and has been since before he even became Vice President. But let's really not be the "actually Trump 2024 is good actually compared to Biden" people. It's not only a bad look, it doesn't reflect our beliefs or principles.
Maybe the couple posts I've seen about this is :fedposting: but Trump is also a fascist and was doing heinous shit with his power too. Not to mention he'd use the post to pogrom trans people. And all of nakedly fascist stuff he did to suppress the 2020 BLM movement (unmarked feds disappearing people in vans??? Thumping a bible on the steps of the capitol while Feds teargassed protestors???)
Fuck Biden and Fuck Trump and fuck anyone who tries to carry water for either of them.
But Trump did handle it that way, so we as leftists should never cheer on this fascist unless he's shidding himself on live television. I would probably ammend my statement that if Trump pooped his pants in front of the whole country, I might cheer that on.
I honestly don't know if the BLM 2020 summer would have happened under Biden/Hilary...at least certainly not been as large and extremely vilified though.
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They encouraged it because any chaos under Trump + giving a big old show of orangemanbad was great for the Dems. To the suburban libs scary protest oh no, to the city libs millitary police oh no.
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Yeah thats true, they fairly quickly went into panic mode once property was being destroyed and city budgets stretched.
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Well BLM started under Obama. The responses to George Floyd's murder would have still been large, probably what they were in reality. But Californian and east coast cities would NOT have shown the same level of solidarity without a Republican in power.
Yeah, I was 50/50 on 2015 BLM (for babybrain centrist reasons) and if I remember right, that was a pretty normal take in my very 'progressive' community.
2020 was a full uproar among the same types of people. Pretty sure a huge amount of them were driven by anti-Trump energy.
Yeah, has everyone here forgotten about Ferguson, Baltimore, etc? If you want to know what summer 2020 would have looked like under a dem president use those incidents for reference. (So basically, still protests but more localized and smaller scale + govt still clamping down on it massively)
That's a really good point, if anything, I feel like the crackdown was a lot crazier under Obama. I don't think any organizers from Minneapolis were found tied up in burned out cars with bullet holes in the back of their skull like the ones in Ferguson were.
the libs would have turned on the protests WAY faster