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Meanwhile the left could keep Le Pen out of the runoff entirely if they united around Mélenchon, but nah.

  • geikei [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Vote for whoever but this seems kinda off to me. LePen seems to have a non insignifcant shot against Macron and dismissive certainty like this could very well lead to eating shit at the end. And even if she didnt, wouldnt it benifit the left and the French political lanscape for the convo to not gravitate and be monopolized between fash and neolib-fash debates and talking points and for actual left convo to take central place even if its sure to lose. For the politics and media on the country to not be a coverage of a competion of who can be most racist between right wingers. And even if Melenchon isnt a communist and maybe doesnt have an appealing personality for many his program is still to the left of Corbyn lets say or around there and is competently making his cases, otherwise he wouldnt be hitting the same % again this time (while you say his image is much worse). It only can play a positive role for the left and for young people mobilization (who support Melanchon in their majority) to not have LePen-Macron face off. And also who the fuck knows how the votes could redistribute in the second roung. Melenchon could very well get more votes from Zemmour and LePen etc than projected and make it a closer race. Wouldnt be an enormous surprise

    • TheCaconym [any]
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      2 years ago

      And even if she didnt, wouldnt it benifit the left and the French political lanscape for the convo to not gravitate and be monopolized between fash and neolib-fash debates and talking points and for actual left convo to take central place even if its sure to lose

      OK, that point is pretty strong. Melenchon would make for a very interesting between-rounds debate.

      Y'all are going to bully me into switching my vote for him, aren't you. There was even a flyer for him wedged in my flat's door yesterday, so maybe that's a sign (they're canvassing hard in my town since it's what commonly referred to here as a dormitory town, with a large part of it being made of poorer people a generation removed from immigration).

      • geikei [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I say there are enough good reasons to do it, especially if there is some mommentum. Especially since as i would guess the communist party cares primarily about the legislative elections and ground organizing. I would probably vote for someone like Varoufakis here in Greece in a similar situation if it had a chance to break fash-neolib monopoly in preseidential candidates and political central stage. Especially if the competent fash had a non zero chance of winning

        • TheCaconym [any]
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          2 years ago

          Especially since as i would guess the communist party cares primarily about the legislative elections and ground organizing

          They call themselves the anti-capitalist party, but yes. And they freely admit publicly they don't believe capital can be defeated through elections, and they're in it mainly for the platform it offers (they have the same allotted talking time in media as other candidates). Which tends to reinforce your point, really.