Edit: Okay, wow. if the statement from a woman of “we owe you nothing” immediately sets you off emotionally, I would really encourage you to think through why that might be.

A more systemic phrasing could have been “we owe the patriarchy nothing”. I changed it to that for a second before realizing, again, that it was fine. A guy that has worked through internalized patriarchy around this will understand it’s not about them.

Patriarchy on the whole conditions men towards having a sense of entitlement towards women’s bodies, time, attention, labor, etc. It also conditions women that they should feel obligated to provide this without setting boundaries or expecting reciprocal solidarity.

Remember, we literally all have degrees of internalized bigotry, misogyny, racism, transphobia, etc because these are systemic issues. Our responsibility to ourselves and our comrades is to work through that. You are not a bad person for finding those brainworms in yourself, only if you refuse to do the work to address them.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        you could just as well ask why men don't simply make male friends who can provide them with emotional support

          • Kanna [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            You keep twisting both comrades words and talking at them instead of listening and discussing in good faith

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            edit-2
            2 years ago

            my point was both cases are simple solutions that are also not nearly as easy as they sound

            like telling a depressed person to cheer up

          • TankGirl [she/her]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            terf shit

            Literally not terf shit. it is strange for you to throw that at people for standard third-wave queer feminist critiques of patriarchy