Just remember that there were only like two cases of successful adventurism for the hundreds of attempts over the last ~150 years. (Gavrilo Princip and )
I think we're rapidly approaching a tipping point where a lot of individual adventurism is about to come back into fashion. One ecoterrorist or anti-genocide bomber will spark off an absolute shit tonne of copycats.
That sounds like a tipping point that could become an actual movement, though, if you can intercept all of the prospective bombers before they do something and get them in contact with one another in an actual community. A single bomber is adventurism, a thousand bombers is a guerilla warfare unit. But that means we should all focus on organizing rather than being the bombers.
I mean sure. But the question is how do you identify and reach and organise the would-be adventurist bombers beforehand?
Find the answer to that question and I guarantee you you're in the process of creating the most revolutionary group the US has seen since the panthers.
Arguably the Panthers successfully intercepted would-be adventurists who would have died shooting cops. Some of them still did, but they did organising in the most revolutionary party the US has seen first.
You find the people that are going to die fighting the state and manage to connect with them before they do it in a disorganised way and you're heading in the direction of a revolutionary force.
I’m not entirely sure how you would do it, obviously this is something entire orgs are probably discussing in person this very moment, but it would at least be poetic to have one of the most revolutionary groups in the US form for Palestinian liberation
Oh I'm not sure it'll happen that quickly lol. When I was saying "tipping point" I mean more like over the next 5 years.
This kind of thing is like the start of it. Probably a slow trickle at first, stuff spaced out very far apart before becoming denser as the conditions get worse.
the problem with that is the various government entities that infiltrate any group that attempts to organize, and tears them apart from the inside or arrests/kills them. But the government aren't in our heads (yet)
Sometimes the best organization is no organization: just individual sparks that eventually coalesce into a wildfire.
It's not about whether or not the specific dude got got, it's about the fallout from it. Generally, Propaganda of the Deed resulted in a backlash by the public against the socialist movements rather than support, whereas achieved all of his goals, and Princip achieved independence for his people from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Just remember that there were only like two cases of successful adventurism for the hundreds of attempts over the last ~150 years. (Gavrilo Princip and
)
I think we're rapidly approaching a tipping point where a lot of individual adventurism is about to come back into fashion. One ecoterrorist or anti-genocide bomber will spark off an absolute shit tonne of copycats.
That sounds like a tipping point that could become an actual movement, though, if you can intercept all of the prospective bombers before they do something and get them in contact with one another in an actual community. A single bomber is adventurism, a thousand bombers is a guerilla warfare unit. But that means we should all focus on organizing rather than being the bombers.
I mean sure. But the question is how do you identify and reach and organise the would-be adventurist bombers beforehand?
Find the answer to that question and I guarantee you you're in the process of creating the most revolutionary group the US has seen since the panthers.
Arguably the Panthers successfully intercepted would-be adventurists who would have died shooting cops. Some of them still did, but they did organising in the most revolutionary party the US has seen first.
You find the people that are going to die fighting the state and manage to connect with them before they do it in a disorganised way and you're heading in the direction of a revolutionary force.
I’m not entirely sure how you would do it, obviously this is something entire orgs are probably discussing in person this very moment, but it would at least be poetic to have one of the most revolutionary groups in the US form for Palestinian liberation
Oh I'm not sure it'll happen that quickly lol. When I was saying "tipping point" I mean more like over the next 5 years.
This kind of thing is like the start of it. Probably a slow trickle at first, stuff spaced out very far apart before becoming denser as the conditions get worse.
I thought the long timeline was implied sorry
the problem with that is the various government entities that infiltrate any group that attempts to organize, and tears them apart from the inside or arrests/kills them. But the government aren't in our heads (yet)
Sometimes the best organization is no organization: just individual sparks that eventually coalesce into a wildfire.
feels like adventurism
Nooooo... Never...
There were more. A lot of european noblemen had a bad time in the 1870s-80s
It's not about whether or not the specific dude got got, it's about the fallout from it. Generally, Propaganda of the Deed resulted in a backlash by the public against the socialist movements rather than support, whereas
achieved all of his goals, and Princip achieved independence for his people from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
I know it turned public opinion against anarchism and was deadly to their movement.
But in the long run it weakened the perception of the royals as untouchable, and created space for Leninism to grow and succeed.
Which sucks because our anarchist comrades deserved a better go at things. But it's hard to see a 1917 without the death of Alexander II
I appreciate the sentiment behind your message brother. Thanks
Were those really that successful? WW1 would start anyway, they all were just itching for pretext anyway. And did Abe death changed anything at all?
Abes entire faction in the party collapsed and the moonies are being rooted out.
Abes death was funny