Just to clarify, Im talking about my face to face interactions with people. I know social democracy is imperialist, unworkable, and doomed to fail. But I have trouble articulating why socialism is the only way forward. I can point out all the problems with capitalism, though.

There’s too much baggage associated with the S word; people immediately point to 100 billion dead vuvuzela. If I had to think of the biggest stumbling block to convincing people, it’s the controversial history associated with socialism. And I just don’t know enough about each individual “atrocity” and “failure” that happened in order to debunk it all. I feel like in order to convince anyone, you have to know basically the entire history of every socialist country by memory. And if I cared enough I could probably learn, but then I give into my pessimism and think “what’s the point? The people are too propagandized to convert.”

Probably the wrong comm to post in, but I give up trying to think of the right one to mark this as.

  • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I gotta disagree hard on this one. Going against the mainstream narrative of Russia and Ukraine immediately puts people on the defensive and justifying American hegemony.

    • Ecoleo [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I was talking to a couple of chuds who agreed with me on that point, felt so weird.

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      3 years ago

      yeah left-liberals who normally love rifting with me about Democrats shenanigans suddenly get tight lipped and "well actually" whenever I start starting going talking about Russia or China. The propaganda is real.