The original series was the least egregious, although I guess you could make the argument that the prequels barely ever pretended Anakin wasn't the specialest of special boys.
"What if the special boy was evil?" could have been a fun subversion of the trope. But the prequels were so horribly Disneyfied, even before they got bought out, that we lost the plot in all the tropes.
Incidentally, one reason why Heir to the Empire was good, too. Mara Jade's whole motive is the belief that Special Boys destroy the balance of the Force. She also implies that Anakin fulfilled the prophecy to bring balance by doing Jedi Jenocide.
But also there were a bunch of Sith cults in the Extended Universe. And even in the core movie series, you had multiple different Sith apprentices being juggled by Sidious.
I wish they had gone way deeper into Lucas-brain for them. Literally just quadruple the fuck down on midi-chlorians and make it about the Whills. The Force as just mystical vibes-driven telepathy powers is way less interesting than that stuff being a minor side-effect of a galactic ecology where human life sits on the big-stupid-resources-factory end of a harmonious symbiotic relation with a microbial superintelligence, like Dune but we're the sandworms now.
Yeah I've had a rebuttal rolling around my head in defence of the OG trilogy, really all those characters are technically Just Some Guys, it's not like they planned to always have a chosen one who is a Skywalker from the beginning, and Luke wasn't even a prophecy child like all his forebears, if it weren't for Leia looking for Obi-Wan, Luke would probably be in spacefash academy training to be a pilot and none the wiser about his origin
I find it strange that so much of anime is about the power fantasy of improving yourself, often with the help of some externality, until the protagonist can become self reliant. Then it turns out they are the ancient ubermensch and they can just clap everyone in existence. Maybe it was always about the power fantasy of complete domination for these otaku/weebs? :thinkin-lenin:
in a way, there is a lot of destiny and prophecy around there. But the super special magic people are cursed, men get magical madness, women must endure politics.
The first book manages to never have a woman POV. The second book starts right after EverythingWasFine, turns out nothing was fine actually. Didn't really got into it.
Yup, I was annoyed at a lot of little things, the protagonists are all a different type of idiot, but there were more things that kept me interested enough to keep on reading. And you need to really like reading since this is a marathon.
Not all of them no, it really starts to pick up speed by the third book but he kinda loses the plot at the end but manages to rally in his last book, Brando Sando then does an ok job wrapping it all up.
I feel like they codified "Plot Armor" with the idea of being Ta'varn. Sort of like how Elden Ring explains the respawn mechanic by saying you're Tarnished. But it wasn't Special in a "you're from a better bloodline". More a materialistic special, in so far as you're in the right place at the right moment to shape history.
Also, plenty of non-Special heroes in WoT. The book was overflowing with characters to the point where you had a twenty page index of names by the end.
Post the whole comic at least
This is every Star Wars trilogy
That's unfair to the original series. Han Solo and Chewbacca were just some guys.
The original series was the least egregious, although I guess you could make the argument that the prequels barely ever pretended Anakin wasn't the specialest of special boys.
The sequels really were the worst offenders
Oh shit it looks like the bad guys went out and bought a six pack of death stars, how will we ever solve this one????
Somehow, Palpatine is back!!!
Hey now, it's different because this time the Death Star is EVEN HUEGER!!1
"What if the special boy was evil?" could have been a fun subversion of the trope. But the prequels were so horribly Disneyfied, even before they got bought out, that we lost the plot in all the tropes.
Incidentally, one reason why Heir to the Empire was good, too. Mara Jade's whole motive is the belief that Special Boys destroy the balance of the Force. She also implies that Anakin fulfilled the prophecy to bring balance by doing Jedi Jenocide.
2 sith 1200 jedi
is this balance?
By the end it was 2 Sith and 1 Jedi.
But also there were a bunch of Sith cults in the Extended Universe. And even in the core movie series, you had multiple different Sith apprentices being juggled by Sidious.
I wish they had gone way deeper into Lucas-brain for them. Literally just quadruple the fuck down on midi-chlorians and make it about the Whills. The Force as just mystical vibes-driven telepathy powers is way less interesting than that stuff being a minor side-effect of a galactic ecology where human life sits on the big-stupid-resources-factory end of a harmonious symbiotic relation with a microbial superintelligence, like Dune but we're the sandworms now.
Yeah I've had a rebuttal rolling around my head in defence of the OG trilogy, really all those characters are technically Just Some Guys, it's not like they planned to always have a chosen one who is a Skywalker from the beginning, and Luke wasn't even a prophecy child like all his forebears, if it weren't for Leia looking for Obi-Wan, Luke would probably be in spacefash academy training to be a pilot and none the wiser about his origin
Damn that slaps so hard.
THIS. THIS FUCKING TROPE.
I find it strange that so much of anime is about the power fantasy of improving yourself, often with the help of some externality, until the protagonist can become self reliant. Then it turns out they are the ancient ubermensch and they can just clap everyone in existence. Maybe it was always about the power fantasy of complete domination for these otaku/weebs? :thinkin-lenin:
Aren't you part god?
Wheel of Time, right?
in a way, there is a lot of destiny and prophecy around there. But the super special magic people are cursed, men get magical madness, women must endure politics.
I haven't watched past the first season so I couldn't say.
the show is a shadow of the flawed masterpiece that is the books
The first book manages to never have a woman POV. The second book starts right after EverythingWasFine, turns out nothing was fine actually. Didn't really got into it.
Yup, I was annoyed at a lot of little things, the protagonists are all a different type of idiot, but there were more things that kept me interested enough to keep on reading. And you need to really like reading since this is a marathon.
Are they actually worth reading? The Eye Of The World is probably one of the worst fantasy novels of all time.
Not all of them no, it really starts to pick up speed by the third book but he kinda loses the plot at the end but manages to rally in his last book, Brando Sando then does an ok job wrapping it all up.
I feel like they codified "Plot Armor" with the idea of being Ta'varn. Sort of like how Elden Ring explains the respawn mechanic by saying you're Tarnished. But it wasn't Special in a "you're from a better bloodline". More a materialistic special, in so far as you're in the right place at the right moment to shape history.
Also, plenty of non-Special heroes in WoT. The book was overflowing with characters to the point where you had a twenty page index of names by the end.