• Socialism_enjoyer [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I kind of misphrased the original post, I meant that I’d seen pro-Russia people on here, but mainly in other places, the post was meant to be about why anybody on the left would support the invasion. If the post is this easy to misinterpret i should probably delete it.

    • comi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Because geopolitics/cynicism or really hating fashies (despite being ideological fig leaf, they have some fashies there, but not enough for invasion)

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        How much is enough for invasion? How many civilians do the fascists need to torture and kill before you are justified in destroying them? How many governorships, minister positions, mayoral positions, military officers, etc being filled with Nazis does it take to make them a threat? How much military do you allow them to amass on your border on behalf of empire?

        Russia waited far too long for this and should have crush the fascist junta in 2014

        • comi [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          For socialist state sure, for capitalist it’s just an excuse.

          How many people saddam has to kill for usa to invade? I’m not talking babies in incubators dipshittery, he still was fairly brutal. Was at any point usa invasion justified? (Aside from iran Iraq, but obviously they liked him then).

          There are core commonalities in those two wars, and if try to psychology away the real reason (porky interests), you’ll arrive at complicated answer, which is not necessarily true.

          Why russia hasn’t attacked in 2014 indeed? Why not in 2019? How are medvedchuk and firtash really involved? Why has not russia restricted gas flows which makes weapons to kill them? Or uranium, or titanium? Why ukrainian oligarchs financed fascists? Why hasn’t russia financed anti fascists?

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            For socialist state sure, for capitalist it’s just an excuse

            the fact that Donbas isn't a socialist state doesn't mean that neo nazis attempting to ethnically cleanse them isn't an unacceptable situation

            the region has had fighting for the last 8 years

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Why wouldn’t you support the destruction of a NATO backed coup by the anti-imperialist bloc?