• Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    In answer to your question, OP, I'm pulling this out my ass somewhat so take it with a handful of salt: it's because this time the Russian-aligned or otherwise non-NATO aligned nations get to see one of "their guys" do a hecking cool anti-terrorism nazi military operation unilaterally, just like when the "free world" cheered on the US invading Iraq and Afghanistan on the basis of combating the bad terrorism. The shoe's on the other foot now, and they can root for their superpower doing the bullying instead of watching the US do it.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      No it’s because Ukraine’s current government is fascist and NATO installed, and destroying outposts of empire is anti-imperialist by definition

      • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, ok, the right-wing nationalist, capitalist, Russia United party, of which Putin is the leader, who, in a 40+ minute speech acting as de facto declaration of war called the Bolsheviks a bunch of misguided morons for allowing Ukraine to have territory of its own and categorically rejected communism is actually a misunderstood anti-imperialist project.

          • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            What's the accidental good thing here, exactly? Getting several thousand civilians killed? Displacing countless more? Creating a new refugee crisis? Plunging the global south into a grain and oil shortage?

            Do you actually believe the line about denazification, and can you provide a meaningful roadmap as to how Russia could possibly achieve this?

            Owning NATO is all cool and good, but this wasn't the way. In addition to what I've already mentioned, this is only going to create and embolden even more Nazi weirdos not just in Ukraine, but all over the west, and the sudden influx of weaponry supplied by the west that has now gone to God knows where will be implemented in future stochastic terrorism, the blowback of which will not be felt for, let's say, another 5-10 years.

            Let me be clear, it's 100% NATO's fault for falsely goading Ukraine into thinking they'd have their backs and refusing to make even the slightest concession against Russia's concerns, but to call their bluff and simultaneously confirm and affirm the very ostensible reason for NATO's existence is the stupidest fucking thing I could ever think of, and this dipshit game has cost the lives of countless innocents.

            But, sure, for a brief moment, NATO looked kinda dumb, when you think about it. Never mind that this is the biggest favor they ever got in terms of arms sales and expansion

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              The accidentally good thing is the destruction of the Anglo-American hegemony, the fall of the USD as global reserve, the unraveling of the imperialist sanctions regime, the destruction of Ukrainian fascists, the liberation of the Russian speaking minority.