Anyone who lifts knows how much it sucks to stay natty. Like for real I can bench press 100 kilos for 5 reps but it took me like 10 years of lifting weights on an off to get there. Feelsbadman when u compare urself to the tiktok sarm goblins and realize u could have a 405 bench by now if u just blasted off years ago. Oh well tho. I want to blast off so bad I just don’t have the money for it right now.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    People out there taking steroids and years off of their lives just to be a shredded waiter or programmer, I don't understand it. Like you don't even compete in any sports

    • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      being shredded makes it easier to fuck. pretty easy to understand why somebody would use gear to achieve that

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      • thekid [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        in the age of tinder, it's probably the only way to set yourself apart

        • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Are you trying to tell me that straight women in general find shredded men unattractive? Lol

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            • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I mean yeah I can imagine, but that's the easiest thing on earth to lie about. Not the way to start out a serious relationship but if you're just looking for casual sex it's hard to see that as a serious drawback compared to the upsides

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              • DonaldJBrandon [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                Fair and true. That being said absolutely not worth the long term effects though. Super fucked up that this is becoming widespread its fucking horrible for you

                • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  No, definitely not worth it. Imagine putting yourself at risk for all the issues listed here for vanity's sake. Cringe

                  Professional athletes are a different story but it really is sad that PEDs are so widespread at all levels of all the big sports. It just makes an already risky career even more dangerous, for the sake of entertainment. Awful

                  Death to America

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        But you can get shredded to a level that most people will find attractive without taking steroids. It involves some muscle definition + low bodyfat percentage. Sure it can involve a lot of time, especially if you're currently at a high bodyfat percentage, but it's not like it's impossible to have four/six/eight pack abs (that depends on your genetics) and some vascularity naturally.

        And if all the people you want to date want you to look like the rock, Chris Hemsworth or some other roid abusing actor, maybe they're not worth dating.

        • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Obviously it's possible to make yourself more attractive without steroids. But steroids are gonna make it a lot easier.

          To be clear I'm not saying people should take steroids or that it's a good idea. I'm just saying it's not hard to understand the thought process of why someone would want to

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          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            Yeah it's ridiculous how well steriods work, especially the ones that inhibit myostatin production. You gain muscle faster taking stuff like that while doing literally nothing, than you gain muscle while training naturally.

            Us naturals just have creatine, quinoa and spinach (both are high in ecdysterone) lol. It's very unfair.

            • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              How much of a difference do you get from creatine vs protein powder? I haven't taken creatine yet but I've started to stall in terms of progress so I'm interested in your experience with it

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              • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                I find that it can help with getting an extra rep or two in, and it definitely helped when I was bedridden, it's actually why I started taking it back after I had back surgery, not for muscle gains.

                Just be careful with hair loss, it's a very rare potential side effect of taking a ton of creatine. Very rare though.

                With training programs, apparently some of the nucleus overload/deload stuff, or even drop sets and pump training, can help with plateaus in both size and strength. It's very bro sciencey, but trying it for a month won't hurt if you've been training for years.

                • MarxGuns [comrade/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  Partial lifts with way over 1RM to train tendons and bone is another I’ve heard.