So my teeth used to be heavily crowded and impossible to floss, plus as a teen I had very serious depression and executive dysfunction. My teeth were a disaster by the time I got braces on, and those things seriously impeded my ability to brush and stuff. I got them off a few years ago; one of my molars legitimately broke in half when I bit down on soft chocolate, it was so bad.

It's been a lot of repairative work and I've been lucky to have access to it. I'm told I'm doing well on caring for my teeth now which is rad. But two seperate people, my dentist and one of his guys, made a funny suggestion.

"Yeah sis, you got this super strong toothpaste right, 1.1% sodium fluoride? Just leave some of that on your teeth every night, in your lil plastic retainees, trust me sis."

This feels so incredibly wrong, like I didn't even rinse my mouth, and now there is toothpaste on my teeth. I'm supposed to sleep like this? This shit is as bad as upper lip estradiol absorbtion. Why am I tormented by silly sensory suggestions lately? 'Just leave the toothpaste on'...

  • @Demoncracy@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 months ago

    We actually put estrogen into your toothpaste to feminize you more intensely. I know, your dentist hired me personally to do the job.

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    • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
      hexbear
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      3 months ago

      Yeah I fucking wish, would make the $12 bottles of toothpaste way more worth it. Imagine: toothpaste, but you go up a cup size. Now that is a salespitch ✨

  • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
    hexbear
    13
    3 months ago

    Oh hey I've done something like that yeah. they said "use this high fluoride toothpaste, and you can spit, but don't rinse"

    • bigboopballs [he/him]
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      7
      3 months ago

      yeah, I thought spit but don't rinse was the standard.

      I was recommended the same thing, but I haven't been very consistent about using the special toothpaste.

      • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
        hexbear
        3
        3 months ago

        I don't think it's always been standard, idk if it is even now, it is possible to get too much fluoride and it's bad for you to do so, so I think that's why they teach kids to rinse, probably less of an issue for adults as long as you aren't straight up swallowing it

      • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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        4
        3 months ago

        my teeth aren't falling out and I seemed to have less issues after but I did stop going to the dentist for a few years not that long after it

  • sappho [she/her]
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    3 months ago

    I think leaving the toothpaste on the surface of your teeth makes sense at least from an efficacy standpoint, because that's why you're not supposed to rinse it, right? Sometimes I just rub some on when I don't have the energy to sit upright long enough for a full brush. But I feel you on the sensory aspect. One thing that I've been doing for my dental health is leaving xylitol to sit on my teeth as much as I can. It's basically just a sugar substitute so not a sensory issue for me like toothpaste. I have gum, lollipops, candies (all sugar free of course) and I also put it in my tea all day long. If your teeth are covered with it, the bacteria in your mouth eat the xylitol and starve to death because it's empty calories. Most sugar alcohols have this effect I believe - it's pretty neat.

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      3
      3 months ago

      Don't suppose you've got any inexpensive xylitol stuff you can recommend? I was chewing Mentos gum for the longest time, but apparently that just gave me TMJ so.... 💩 I bought some Epic mints but they were like $25 for three 180 count bottles. And I guess it's not a lot for that many individual mints, but it feels like it.😅

      • sappho [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        Yeah unfortunately most of my stuff is on the pricier side 😞 because I have celiac so I have to look for things that are labeled gluten-free as well. Probably the cheapest thing I get is Spry mints, but based on the Amazon price at least they're about the same cost/mint as the Epic ones you got. It's part of the reason I lean on adding straight xylitol to my tea so much.

        • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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          2
          3 months ago

          Ah, well. No worries. You have given me the idea of using xylitol powder to make my own candies, cookies, and ice cream though. So thank you for that! stalin-approval

  • oregoncom [he/him]
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    6
    3 months ago

    I told you all fluoride is better applied as a paste.

  • @DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 months ago

    As someone with terrible teeth I can relate. I use the exact toothpaste you're talking about. (I don't wear a retainer to bed though). I was told I only need to leave it for half an hour though (no drinking water or rinsing or anything in that time), not overnight. I did get used to it being on my teeth after a while, but talk to your dentist about that if leaving it on overnight makes it too difficult? It might be expensive to get the toothpaste, but since teeth are luxury bones, it will probably save you money in the long run as you'll need fewer dentist visits.

    • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
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      hexbear
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      3 months ago

      Oh, a half hour each night sounds way more doable. I have acid rn from inevitably swallowing toothpaste out of my retainers! Also yeah, I'm fully resigned to $12 toothpaste for the rest of my days, since I don't want another tooth to rot in half desolate

      • @DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        3 months ago

        Yeah, I've been there. It sucks. It was hell trying to convince the dentist to remove it (they wanted a very expensive root canal instead of the much cheaper tooth pulling). Try talking to your dentist about it, I've never really heard of "all night" toothpaste, so maybe you could find some compromise like brushing your teeth half an hour before bed or something.

    • @Demoncracy@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 months ago

      What toothpaste? Does it help with bleeding gums? My teeth are fine, but my gums not, but instead of any toothpaste, all dentists want me to pay a few hundreds for a "deep cleaning". I don't see any issues with my teeth genuinely and don't have the money, and my insurance doesn't cover it.

      • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        Bleeding gums is a sign of infection and typically requires a deep cleaning coupled with antibiotics depending on severity

        • @Demoncracy@lemmygrad.ml
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          3 months ago

          I wish the dentists would do anything, but they say I need to pay hundreds for the deep cleaning. No mention of any sort of medication. I am going to try to do daily flossing and see how that goes.

          • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            Yeah make sure you’re brushing at least twice per day and flossing daily maybe followed by a swishing with Listerine (not alcohol free). The issue is that a deep cleaning attempts to go low beneath the gum line and is a different kind of cleaning than a regular one.

            When it comes to paying they may be able to either waive part of the fee or allow you to pay over time. The deep cleaning often takes more than one visit since the mouth is treated in quadrants. If it is painful you should be able to request numbing gel too.

      • @DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        3 months ago

        I use a special flouride toothpaste to help prevent tooth decay, and if your gums are having issues, it could be because you don't floss enough, it'll hurt for a couple of days (or even weeks) but if you floss thoroughly every day your gums should do a lot better. I was also told by my dentist that when I'm brushing my teeth I should aim much lower down, touching the gums, instead of the top of my teeth to help prevent that sort of thing. It's mainly about making sure you floss daily and stay well hydrated so your gums don't recede. It hurts a lot at first, but after a couple of weeks it gets much better than before.

        If you have a lot of trouble using regular floss, you can use something like these (I don't know what they would be called in your part of the world, but they make flossing so much easier than regular floss):

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        • @Demoncracy@lemmygrad.ml
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          3 months ago

          I have those, but my teeth bleed so much after I don't really want to use them. I'll try to force myself soon. I know of the technique to also brush your gums, I've been doing it for many many years.

          • @DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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            3 months ago

            It does suck for a while, your mouth will bleed a lot at first and it hurts a lot, but it stops hurting after a while (and is much cheaper and less painful than a deep clean). The hardest part for me was remembering to do it every day, you can forget a day every now and then after your mouth is used to it, but you need to do it every day for a couple of weeks at least. Also the hydration part is really important too, make sure you're drinking enough water every day, it helps a lot with receding gums.

          • ArsenLupin [comrade/them, he/him]
            hexbear
            2
            3 months ago

            Can I recommend a water pick/irrigator? They aren't super expensive, and really really effective!

            https://www.waterpik.com/products/dental-water-flosser/WP-670/

            I paid like half of the MSRP for mine.

  • @Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
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    3
    3 months ago

    My dentist said rinsing after brushing can be counterproductive. You’re supposed to spit but not rinse, so what they’re saying makes sense to me.

    • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      2
      3 months ago

      I got acid reflux from inadvertently swallowing toothpaste though :/ It makes sense to me too, and my teeth feel great, it's just deeply unpleasant. A sensory bother.

      • @Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
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        2
        3 months ago

        Oh yeah I feel that. I have a really sensitive stomach and just brushing my teeth makes me gag really hard. Half my teeth brushing is trying not to puke because then I have to start all over haha