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  • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Can the proletariat be "classist" against the bourgeoisie? No. Because of the power/privilege differential. Now apply this to other pairs of groups. That's the idea.

    • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I would proudly call myself classist against the bourgeoisie lol

      But I also think it's idealist to not bring it back to relations with the world (what we call power/privilege).

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        2 years ago

        Well it’s ironically sort of similar to the race based convo we’re having here I think

        Like yes we all are gonna have issues with bourgoisie bc of the power they hold but wanting to flatten that isn’t really analogous to “classism” insociety that reifies the power structure. For example “low skill workings not deserving living wages” or whatever. The power imbalance is what makes it different.

        I think colloquially you could maybe say me muttering rich mf under my breath when passing houses in malibu is classist but I think it’s more useful analyzing it from the lens of who’s being oppressed, how is it used to maintain the status quo and that’s simply not the same as classism towards working class. In the same way that someone saying honky to a white person will never be equal with cops gunning you down for jaywalking while black or whatever

        • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Well I was actually meaning more like “once we come to power we won’t make excuses for the terror.”

          :stalin-gun-1: :stalin-gun-2:

          That kind of classism. Of course I support microagressions against bourgeois, but I also support real aggressions once we win :communism-will-win: