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  • anaesidemus [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    yes, this is true, but the "white race" is especially dumb because there seems to be some kind of arbitrary scale of whiteness that determines if you belong or not.

    • Commander_Data [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      It's not really arbitrary. I have indigenous and former slave ancestors, but I appear white and receive all the benefits of being white in the US. I'm sure my miscegenation would keep me out of the white ethnostate eventually, but the non deranged white liberals accept me, and right now that's all that matters.

      • PbSO4 [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I think your interpretation of "arbitrary" might be different from my meaning. I can say with absolute certainty what blood type someone has, there is no room for opinion in that determination. It is not arbitrary, it is a category based on something measurable. Race, on the other hand, arises out of both the beliefs of the viewer and the characteristics of the viewed. What one person might consider white, another might not, making it arbitrary. On a systemic level, the decision to consider one ethnicity white or one not-white is not grounded in any meaningful difference, it's based on the wants and desires of a small group of people.

        • Commander_Data [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Yes. I feel like arbitrary means not according to a system or without organization. I agree that the idea of "whiteness" is unscientific, however I feel that there is definitely a set of criteria that the in group uses to determine it, even though it fluctuates over time. I also disagree that the minority is who sets the criteria. I believe capital is fundamentally indifferent with regards to race. In group/out group oppression predates market economies. Capital absolutely exploits racism to its advantage, but I feel like there's an in group who use power to hoard whatever resources aren't gobbled up as profit and that group, in the US at least, sets the terms for who is "white".

    • PbSO4 [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Racism is the purview of the dumb and the evil alike. In both cases, they are driven to assert their place in the hierarchy and visible features or cultural practices are a convenient heuristic to use for categorization. It is arbitrary, because an arbitrary system gives immense power to the one who can actually make and enforce decisions.