the people who "look down on the West" have increased to 41.7 percent

  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I've actually said what I want very clearly, it's in those comments above that you've ignored and deflected.

    Do you see why I am not convinced by a self-defense / attempt to say where we have common ground? You haven't even recognized that you've been deflecting, trying to troll, trying to shift burdens, generally just acting like this is a fight you need to win rather than engage in any self-crit.

    I can give you two examples of what it would look like to demonstrate good faith:

    1. Do the actual self-crit of recognizing these shitty behaviors that many folks have pointed out. Self-evident behaviors you've avoided recognizing by doubling down on them. Saying that you're actually a good critical supporter who gets called tankie is saying, "I'm an ally, actually" even though I've already told you why your behavior means you're not a comrade. Something else you deflected, by the way.

    2. Return to the topics from which you deflected and attempt to really engage. I think you made a struggle to do this by asking me what "my" definition of chauvinism was, but it was asked condescendingly so fuck man, what do you expect?

    I'm describing the shit you did and things we've all seen among internet libs. If you do anything irl, I hope you don't act like this, and I hope you can do the self-crit needed to avoid this form of liberalism, which is fundamentally grounded in egos.

      • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I talk to libs of all stripes all the time. Had one condescendingly tell me all about how "we have to protect Ukraine" last week, lol. I'm also talking to one right now.

        Let me know when you're ready to stop posting your Ls and can actually engage with us.

          • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            “Talk to” aka name-called and condescended.

            I've been very patient with you, actually, and have explained at length what is wrong with your behavior. Most people won't do this for you and will just cringe and move on.

            Anyways, name-calling: yeah duh. What do you do with ignorant trolls that act like a baby when they get called out?

            Condescending: sure why not I mean if I'm telling you what's what and that you're being shitty I'm sure there's some way that counts at condescension, but get a grip. Do I need to remind you how you acted towards several comrades around here?

            Yeah you’re a real good talker. I bet you win over lots of allies.

            Yes I recruit and radicalize people all the time, actually. Why do you think I'm going zero tolerance on you? Your behavior is what turns people away, I have to fight this egocentric liberalism all the time in orgs.

              • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Yes you say many dumb things to avoid dealing with what I - and others - say to you. Constantly trying to rationalize away the criticisms, deflect, throw them back even when they don't make sense. Like I said before - it's like arguing with a little kid.

                You will need to deal with this someday if you're ever going to actually help out irl.

                "Fruitlessly" is a great self-own though, thanks for that.

                • zxcvbnm [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  You don't say anything at all. You haven't once.

                  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    Proud of you, kid. Completely detaching from reality to avoid doing self-crit.