i've been having some convos with for lack of better words, normies more recently again and i've had a string of people just have NO IDEA how many countries the US has either overthrown, attempted to overthrow or have influenced in some way. Usually it all starts from explaining how the US is inherently a very right wing country and always has been. i've talked to a lot of different people about shit kinda like this for years and it's kinda wearing me down how little anyone knows anything about so much shit the evil empire has done. like i actually feel like the Charlie Day always sunny conspiracy board meme sometimes just carrying on a conversation, referencing some events or whatever. idk if anyone else feels this way sometimes, i just felt like venting a bit cause it made me feel actually bad in a way that i especially didn't like and felt like, i guess, alone??
Yeah, the classic formulation (paraphrased) is that people will call you a conspiracy theorist for accusing the CIA of things that the CIA literally admitted to (like COINTELPRO). It's fucking tiring and I think the only way to get by is to start with like one or two people who you can really thoroughly bring up to speed just so that you then have someone who you can talk to normally rather than extremely didactically.
Where I currently am, I don't really have one who is also my friend (though I know some trots). When the semester starts I'll find a person or two who can actually hold a serious conversation and take my own advice.
Um ackshually cointelpro was the FBI sweaty
Shit, I've been owned
this is so accurate to me lmao, i'm in a very similar situation myself. i do know a few non trots that are cool and good but i always feel like im still way further left than them on almost everything and it's annoying. but at the same time those are the people i feel most comfortable with cause even if you say something they truly cannot or haven't believed they're much more open to the ideas. and even then there is a line, i don't want to scare people with suggesting things that might be radical in their mind but are actually a reasonable path to potentially rectifying this disgusting system we live in