I started making viboe game shorts when it came out because it has a lower barrier to entry than regular YouTube. I quickly got a few videos up to 1000 ish views, and 2 videos got like 15k views. A lot of the videos didn't get shit for views despite being good videos.
My friend told me I should make a TikTok and just reupload the same videos there, since it adds almost no work.
So I did. My TikTok quickly blew up despite spending less time on it. Good videos pretty consistently did well, and not-so-good videos consistently did poorly. People like and reply WAY MORE on the TikTok videos, have discussions, and are generally NICE. YouTube will have 2 snide comments, 1 spam, and 1 "nice shot" per 10 shorts.
I've had several videos get shitloads of views on TikTok+ like 100k, 500k views - people in the comments going nuts, laughing, freaking out, sharing the video, saying it's the craziest shit they've ever seen, and then later remembering and tagging me in other videos they see. I got 4000 followers from one video.
YouTube could give that video like 8 views. 200 views. 800 views. Like nope, nobody's going to like this one. Can't possibly find someone interested in this. You check the chart where it shows how long people watch, and those few people are watching the shit out of the video, because it's objectively great. Nope, 90 views.
Sure TikTok sucks but YouTube Shorts is a shitty attempt at replicating it. YouTube is much more reliant on its algorithm than on the userbase itself. For that reason it's significantly worse at identifying videos that people will enjoy.
On the user end, once you've used each for a while, TikTok is a lot better at sucking you in because it listens better to what you like, follow and favorite.
People can also follow each other and send direct messages, including sharing videos. And you can see exactly who likes your videos, then check if they make any good content and leave a comment, follow them, etc. Users end up remembering each other. YouTube doesn't facilitate that at all.
Nah they are both just video platforms with machine learning recommendation algorithms. The only difference is youtube some time ago decided to minmax for watchtime in order to monetize it's market position while tiktok is still optimizing for growth. Both are 100% reliant on their userbases providing all the labor in creating content and providing the metrics that drive the algorithms.
I have recommendations disabled on youtube so all of my discovery is through community recommendations and I do not make any videos for which I would check who is liking so whatever point you are making here seems kind of specific to someone who is already a successful tiktok creator. If you had won the algorithm lottery on youtube rather than tiktok I suspect you'd be making the same claims in reverse.
The ability to manually build a followimg is actually more important for a new channel, and falls off once there are just shitloads of people liking your stuff.
TikTok seems to test new videos on your followers first and then when they watch and like the video, it'll branch out further. Well, you can get followers simply by seeing who just liked your video, then if they make videos (and aren't chuds) you like one of their videos and follow them. They'll remember you, follow you back, and start getting recommended your videos. Now you have a bunch of people who have a vaguely good opinion of you and they're seeing your videos, which boosts them to non-followers, who like your video and you repeat the cycle.
They also just comment so much more, like seriously TikTok users are 50 times more likely to comment and 100 times more likely to comment something coherent and positive. Those comments juice the watch time too
And you can literally just DM people your videos. If the videos don't suck they practically never mind, and actually enjoy seeing hand picked videos. They are more patient with videos that are being directly recommended to them, knowing there's probably payoff.
The effort behind YouTube Shorts feels like one step up from Google Plus
It's garbage from a video making perspective too.
I started making viboe game shorts when it came out because it has a lower barrier to entry than regular YouTube. I quickly got a few videos up to 1000 ish views, and 2 videos got like 15k views. A lot of the videos didn't get shit for views despite being good videos.
My friend told me I should make a TikTok and just reupload the same videos there, since it adds almost no work.
So I did. My TikTok quickly blew up despite spending less time on it. Good videos pretty consistently did well, and not-so-good videos consistently did poorly. People like and reply WAY MORE on the TikTok videos, have discussions, and are generally NICE. YouTube will have 2 snide comments, 1 spam, and 1 "nice shot" per 10 shorts.
I've had several videos get shitloads of views on TikTok+ like 100k, 500k views - people in the comments going nuts, laughing, freaking out, sharing the video, saying it's the craziest shit they've ever seen, and then later remembering and tagging me in other videos they see. I got 4000 followers from one video.
YouTube could give that video like 8 views. 200 views. 800 views. Like nope, nobody's going to like this one. Can't possibly find someone interested in this. You check the chart where it shows how long people watch, and those few people are watching the shit out of the video, because it's objectively great. Nope, 90 views.
It's just a shit platform
They are both shit platforms and luck is the overwhelmingly dominant factor in whether you take off on either of them.
Sure TikTok sucks but YouTube Shorts is a shitty attempt at replicating it. YouTube is much more reliant on its algorithm than on the userbase itself. For that reason it's significantly worse at identifying videos that people will enjoy.
On the user end, once you've used each for a while, TikTok is a lot better at sucking you in because it listens better to what you like, follow and favorite.
People can also follow each other and send direct messages, including sharing videos. And you can see exactly who likes your videos, then check if they make any good content and leave a comment, follow them, etc. Users end up remembering each other. YouTube doesn't facilitate that at all.
Nah they are both just video platforms with machine learning recommendation algorithms. The only difference is youtube some time ago decided to minmax for watchtime in order to monetize it's market position while tiktok is still optimizing for growth. Both are 100% reliant on their userbases providing all the labor in creating content and providing the metrics that drive the algorithms.
I have recommendations disabled on youtube so all of my discovery is through community recommendations and I do not make any videos for which I would check who is liking so whatever point you are making here seems kind of specific to someone who is already a successful tiktok creator. If you had won the algorithm lottery on youtube rather than tiktok I suspect you'd be making the same claims in reverse.
The ability to manually build a followimg is actually more important for a new channel, and falls off once there are just shitloads of people liking your stuff.
TikTok seems to test new videos on your followers first and then when they watch and like the video, it'll branch out further. Well, you can get followers simply by seeing who just liked your video, then if they make videos (and aren't chuds) you like one of their videos and follow them. They'll remember you, follow you back, and start getting recommended your videos. Now you have a bunch of people who have a vaguely good opinion of you and they're seeing your videos, which boosts them to non-followers, who like your video and you repeat the cycle.
They also just comment so much more, like seriously TikTok users are 50 times more likely to comment and 100 times more likely to comment something coherent and positive. Those comments juice the watch time too
And you can literally just DM people your videos. If the videos don't suck they practically never mind, and actually enjoy seeing hand picked videos. They are more patient with videos that are being directly recommended to them, knowing there's probably payoff.
The effort behind YouTube Shorts feels like one step up from Google Plus
The things both tiktok and youtube chose to promote for me is weird. A beetle climbing up a vibraphone and a toy laptop being overclocked, glorious.
Noooo not anything I care about like the inspiron 700m review or the hard drive debacle. Instead promoting my shitposts.