I just came across these "disturbing facts about proton mail". Let's say, hypothetically, that I administer a small org that now wants to move away from proton.

I guess I should just learn pgp, but that would be a tough sell for any boomer members.

EDIT: thanks for all the responses! It seems like my intuition was correct: email is inherently insecure, and proton is no worse than other email providers insofaras you don't let their marketing cause you to drop your guard. If it's illegal, keep it offline.

  • Juice [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Except they have to furnish metadata to LEAs upon request, which is all that is needed in most cases.

    • layla
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      2 years ago

      Did you click the link? The metadata they have is:

      • The date the account was created
      • The last time the user connected to their servers

      This is all they provide LEAs when they're told to, because it's all the metadata they have on their users. That's what the link shows.

          • Juice [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Lol I show you evidence that signal was funded by extremely shady alphabet agency connected sources, and you show me some sternly worded letters that somehow make federal warrants magically disappear, calling it "the proof".

            Listen, I don't know shit. I dont know if the author that i linked, as well as all of his sources, have an axe to grind with signal, or what. I'm just saying I don't trust them and I don't think anyone else should either. I use signal, cautiously.

            And yeah, I'm running graphene, I'm aware of phone vulnerabilities and I do what I can. I have friends who know way more about this than I do, but nothing is perfect.

            • layla
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              2 years ago

              Interestingly the author is the same guy who wrote Lemmy (well, half of the team, it's Dessalines), small world