It honestly doesnt matter how you think things ought to be, this is how they are. Online poster FirstToServe thinks one china is bullshit? Cool, cool. Unfortunately nuclear power China that is 180km from Taiwan disagrees with you.
"It honestly doesn't matter how you think things ought to be" is literally my thesis here lmao
NuClEaR pOwEr ChiNA 180km from Taiwan isn't going to do shit. It doesn't matter what they think as long as they insist on this rhetorical lie that is OCP. Taiwan isn't theirs. They would have to fight a war to claim it, and that war would be the end of life on earth. So the status quo will remain.
If you think differently you're huffing ideology from a paint can.
“It honestly doesn’t matter how you think things ought to be” is literally my thesis here lmao
I dont think it is. If it is it’s incoherent. Your thesis mostly seems to be “im gonna pretend all these shitposters actually want nuclear war and get mad about it”
It doesn’t matter what they think as long as they insist on this rhetorical lie that is OCP
Who agrees with you? Redditors? You really think thay calling OCP a lie means the US can be as provocative as they want?
Like you’re out here saying were all huffing pure ideology because we think China is within its rights to tell the US to fuck off, meanwhile your reasoning is based on ignoring the status quo you’re so excited to maintain.
The very real effects of preventing the US from making Taiwan into a giant Okinawa military base a 100 miles of China's shores and completely and utterly controlling its politicial and economic actions. Which is what would happen within a decade of the OCP going away even if China was the most peacefull and friendly nation to the New Taiwan. Disagree with this?
And if you say " but but the sides can agree and sign that Taiwan will never host US bases or get into a military pact with them" then your brain is barely at the size of a reptile's . Especially looking at Nato's behavior and seeing that rn China is 10 times the priority post collapse Russia has been for the US and west and that the US
Well then we have an irreconcilable difference regarding who the fucking moron is here. It is objectively true that the person who initiates hostilities is the aggressor. That's what that word means. If belief in dictionary definitions of words is cause to be considered 'an absolute fucking moron' in your mind, then I guess that makes you an absolute fucking moron. How could you disagree?
It honestly doesnt matter how you think things ought to be, this is how they are. Online poster FirstToServe thinks one china is bullshit? Cool, cool. Unfortunately nuclear power China that is 180km from Taiwan disagrees with you.
"It honestly doesn't matter how you think things ought to be" is literally my thesis here lmao
NuClEaR pOwEr ChiNA 180km from Taiwan isn't going to do shit. It doesn't matter what they think as long as they insist on this rhetorical lie that is OCP. Taiwan isn't theirs. They would have to fight a war to claim it, and that war would be the end of life on earth. So the status quo will remain.
If you think differently you're huffing ideology from a paint can.
I dont think it is. If it is it’s incoherent. Your thesis mostly seems to be “im gonna pretend all these shitposters actually want nuclear war and get mad about it”
Who agrees with you? Redditors? You really think thay calling OCP a lie means the US can be as provocative as they want?
Like you’re out here saying were all huffing pure ideology because we think China is within its rights to tell the US to fuck off, meanwhile your reasoning is based on ignoring the status quo you’re so excited to maintain.
I'm sorry... who do you think adjudicates what countries are and aren't allowed to do?
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The very real effects of preventing the US from making Taiwan into a giant Okinawa military base a 100 miles of China's shores and completely and utterly controlling its politicial and economic actions. Which is what would happen within a decade of the OCP going away even if China was the most peacefull and friendly nation to the New Taiwan. Disagree with this?
And if you say " but but the sides can agree and sign that Taiwan will never host US bases or get into a military pact with them" then your brain is barely at the size of a reptile's . Especially looking at Nato's behavior and seeing that rn China is 10 times the priority post collapse Russia has been for the US and west and that the US
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they literally just fucking told you you fucking nerd
The unpopularity of my obviously true observations isn't going to change the world I'm referring to. It's just going to make me even more smug.
China isn't shooting shit but you're an absolute fucking moron for thinking they'd be the aggressors if they did, you fucking liberal
Well then we have an irreconcilable difference regarding who the fucking moron is here. It is objectively true that the person who initiates hostilities is the aggressor. That's what that word means. If belief in dictionary definitions of words is cause to be considered 'an absolute fucking moron' in your mind, then I guess that makes you an absolute fucking moron. How could you disagree?
It does affect things like the UN and the diplomatic relationships between different countries and China or Taiwan
Yeah but it doesn't affect what sphere of influence Taiwan lies under. Doesn't change their role in US military procurement and strategy.
If you're talking about how Portugal's ambassadors couch language then you're missing the forest for the trees, wouldn't you say?