People don't think cops are social workers, but some do see cops as social services, in the sense that calling the cops is basically the only way to handle social problems many people have. When they call the cops on a guy living on the street they don't think the cops will get him housing, but they know the cops will get him out of their sight.
It's bad, but it's a real response plenty of people have to social problems. It's not purely manipulation of polls.
That is not how the polls or the propaganda was presented, either by the media or Matt Taibbi
They always gave it a positive bent, cops were "replacing" or "filling in" for social workers or as Taibbi put "In many poor neighborhoods, police ARE THE social workers" so no, there are many people who want to present or convince people that cops are social workers and that is a positive development. Or if they want to be "woke" about it; its "harm reduction"
Copaganda comes in many forms but the easiest way to detect is to judge whether they deem modern policing as socially positive or negative
Now we do have empirical studies showing policing even in moderate amounts is catastrophe for working class neighborhoods and local organizations, but despite that, people like Taibbi still peddle a fiction about poor people believing cops perform social work or valuable service to a community. When the only polls available either don't ask that question or it's a poll about policing in upper middle neighborhoods
I don't think your recollection is correct. I remember having this same conversation two years ago, digging up a transcript, and seeing that they did not actually claim cops were social workers.
People don't think cops are social workers, but some do see cops as social services, in the sense that calling the cops is basically the only way to handle social problems many people have. When they call the cops on a guy living on the street they don't think the cops will get him housing, but they know the cops will get him out of their sight.
It's bad, but it's a real response plenty of people have to social problems. It's not purely manipulation of polls.
That is not how the polls or the propaganda was presented, either by the media or Matt Taibbi
They always gave it a positive bent, cops were "replacing" or "filling in" for social workers or as Taibbi put "In many poor neighborhoods, police ARE THE social workers" so no, there are many people who want to present or convince people that cops are social workers and that is a positive development. Or if they want to be "woke" about it; its "harm reduction"
Copaganda comes in many forms but the easiest way to detect is to judge whether they deem modern policing as socially positive or negative
Now we do have empirical studies showing policing even in moderate amounts is catastrophe for working class neighborhoods and local organizations, but despite that, people like Taibbi still peddle a fiction about poor people believing cops perform social work or valuable service to a community. When the only polls available either don't ask that question or it's a poll about policing in upper middle neighborhoods
I really don't think that was part of it. And I don't see the argument that cops are social workers from anyone who seems genuinely on the left.
Thats literally what he said on 2020 chapo ep and the operative words there being "anyone who seems genuinely on the left"
I'm saying I don't think that's correct. I don't think that's what was actually said.
Expect it was, unequivocally, which is why I quoted him
I don't think your recollection is correct. I remember having this same conversation two years ago, digging up a transcript, and seeing that they did not actually claim cops were social workers.