i saw it live, went in more sympathetic to Virgil but he seemed to take the subject much less seriously, and Matt laid out his argument clearly and reasonably in a way that Virgil wasn't prepared to rebut. Also worth checking out Matt's previous appearance on No Cartridge where he goes more in depth into his reasoning. It's interesting to note that he's since become a lot less hardline against gaming, despite his distressing experience of Fortnite